Gheeze Steve, I was expecting you to throw gasoline on the fire....  so you are 
calling lent?!?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political

Heres a pic of my porta potty. Its use rate currently has a value of like 65 
bucks a turd. 
Also, here is a pic of the water main we located for the water company.
It was a fine Columbus day, as are many during the holiday season of lent.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 11:18 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

  If "Mad Dog" was convinced enough to write about him, and you don't believe 
him, you are indoctrinated...


  On 10/11/22 8:26 AM, Chuck Macenski wrote:

    I think he loves what the country can do for him and is happy to divide the 
nation as a means to that end. Whatever good came from his administration's 
policies, I believe the collateral damage outweighs the benefit. 


    On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 9:56 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Oh I’ll say it.  He doesn’t love this country.



      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
      Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 1:20 AM
      To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



      But you can’t say he doesn’t love this country and did some great things 
for it 😊.





      Rory



      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
      Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 8:31 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
      Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



      Zero loyalty is a primary feature of Trump.  He would toss his mother 
under the bus.  I have heard AOC say some anti demo stuff.  Not much.

      Sent from my iPhone



        On Oct 10, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

         the way that the trump cult vilifies any other position in the 
_republican_ party is what sets them apart.   Does AOC vilify Biden?

        On 10/10/22 9:25 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

          The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll 
reinstate Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion. 
There's plenty of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my daily 
for 4 years. I had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed 2022 Model S 
and love both. 



          If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the lowest 
IQs in America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan Klepper 
trump" on youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how "poorly 
educated" some are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the cult. You 
can be Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone off the 
deep end.



          On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson 
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

            My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a 
large anti-EV contingent on the right:



            - A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being pushed 
by groups with an economic interest in an issue.  In this case it is fossil 
fuel energy which is a trillion dollar industry.  The world is moving towards 
EVs a whole lot faster than a lot in the industry expected.  It isn't 
surprising that wrenches are thrown into the works whenever possible.   



            - Most current EVs are expensive.  Money and liberals are more 
concentrated in urban areas.  It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above, when 
it is targeted at a group that is different form you.  



            On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

              Well the original description was “what is important to be taught 
at school”.  In that context, the chart made no sense at all.

              If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on 
racial issues in school then that does make sense.





              From: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
              Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM
              To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
<af@af.afmug.com>
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



              I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little” 
response.  

              Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News.  



              From: Chuck McCown via AF 

              Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM

              To: dmmoff...@gmail.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

              Cc: Chuck McCown 

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



              The question was as follows:



              “Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or 
too little time teaching about the following topics:”



              I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question.  

              The source is as follows: 

              The American Family Survey 2022.  It conducted online to a match 
sample on gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022.  The sample size is 
3,000 and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%.  





              There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa.  Evergreen 
State College.  They actually have a faction that teaches that you cannot trust 
science because it teaches concepts that are counter to postmodernism.  The 
extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up to scientific 
scrutiny.  So the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t trust science, 
but for different reasons.  



              So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of 
statistics and samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary 
numbers... right ‘'



              In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or 
an election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand, 
don’t believe it, it is flawed... ???



              From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

              Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM

              To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

              Cc: 'Chuck McCown' 

              Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT Political



              Interesting.



              I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and 
“Science” should be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative 
ranking to come up with those percentages.  I don’t believe for a minute that 
only a bare majority of any political party thinks science is important.



              I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the 
survey questions.  If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people 
of all races” the percentages would be high across the board.  You’d have to 
phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread. 



              Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used 
to come up with those numbers.  I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make up 
an imaginary number”.



              -Adam



              From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via 
AF
              Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM
              To: af@af.afmug.com
              Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
              Subject: [AFMUG] OT Political



              Been too quiet around here.  Thought I would try to ignite 
another brushfire.



              This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it.

              Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school.  








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