Chuck,

The craziest conspiracy theories are probably believed by a small number of
people, sure. But larger conspiracies like the covid vaccine will kill you
is believed by a much larger percentage of Republicans. Just look at
vaccine rates between the right and left. Many also believe rumors that all
kids are being groomed in schools, there's litter boxes for kids that
identify as a furry, that schools are teaching kids how to be gay, and
more. I've talked to enough anti-vaxxers that they're not the fringe
anymore.

I live in rural MN and there's some people that have "fu*k Biden" flags or
"trump won" flags up. A farmer also painted some hay bales that say trump
won or "keep your guns, rights, and God". People flying an American flag
with a trump flag right underneath. What they can't see is how un-American
that is. I can't wait for the day that he passes away and these people see
how much of an evil person he is.

I would say that at least a majority of people who still support trump are
as low as the sewer trash I'm seeing interviewed. Normally good people have
been indoctrinated into the cult when you actually see them talk about
trump.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> Very few trump supporters can ce characterized as below.  You are sampling
> the sewage concentrate distilled down be the left.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2022, at 12:48 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Rory,
>
> How can anyone say trump loves this country? He hates or is indifferent to
> most everyone in it. He's a narcissist that ONLY cares about himself. He
> doesn't care about you, me, or anyone that disagrees with him.
>
> He's tossed aside and stuck his mob of cult followers on anyone who
> disobeys him, including people who work for him in office and during
> campaigns. One mistake and he tells everyone you're worthless or against
> him, then the targets of his hate start receiving death threats from his
> followers. He's the least loyal person in office.
>
> The people still going to his rallies are mindless sheep. I've watched
> dozens of interviews and the conspiracies people share are insane. JFK Jr
> is still alive, Biden is really Obama with a mask on, 5G is mind control,
> microchips in vaccines, etc. Their IQ levels are lower than low. Anyone
> with a brain sees through trump's lies. I hope his supporters snap out of
> the hypnosis soon.
>
> You're not supposed to worship politicians. I voted for Biden because he's
> a decent human being but I don't make him my entire personality like
> trumpers do. I have no merchandise, I don't think he was sent by God, I
> don't praise him or think he's perfect, I disagree with some things like a
> normal person should.
>
> 2024 better offer us some better choices than Biden/Trump.
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 12:26 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
>> But you can’t say he doesn’t love this country and did some great things
>> for it 😊.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2022 8:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political
>>
>>
>>
>> Zero loyalty is a primary feature of Trump.  He would toss his mother
>> under the bus.  I have heard AOC say some anti demo stuff.  Not much.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>>  the way that the trump cult vilifies any other position in the
>> _republican_ party is what sets them apart.   Does AOC vilify Biden?
>>
>> On 10/10/22 9:25 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll
>> reinstate Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion.
>> There's plenty of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my
>> daily for 4 years. I had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed
>> 2022 Model S and love both.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the lowest IQs
>> in America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan Klepper
>> trump" on youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how "poorly
>> educated" some are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the cult.
>> You can be Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone off
>> the deep end.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a large
>> anti-EV contingent on the right:
>>
>>
>>
>> - A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being pushed by
>> groups with an economic interest in an issue.  In this case it is fossil
>> fuel energy which is a trillion dollar industry.  The world is moving
>> towards EVs a whole lot faster than a lot in the industry expected.  It
>> isn't surprising that wrenches are thrown into the works whenever
>> possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Most current EVs are expensive.  Money and liberals are more
>> concentrated in urban areas.  It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above,
>> when it is targeted at a group that is different form you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well the original description was “what is important to be taught at
>> school”.  In that context, the chart made no sense at all.
>>
>> If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on racial
>> issues in school then that does make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM
>> *To:* dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <
>> af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political
>>
>>
>>
>> I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little”
>> response.
>>
>> Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM
>>
>> *To:* dmmoff...@gmail.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political
>>
>>
>>
>> The question was as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> “Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or too
>> little time teaching about the following topics:”
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question.
>>
>> The source is as follows:
>>
>> The American Family Survey 2022.  It conducted online to a match sample
>> on gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022.  The sample size is
>> 3,000 and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa.  Evergreen State
>> College.  They actually have a faction that teaches that you cannot trust
>> science because it teaches concepts that are counter to postmodernism.  The
>> extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up to scientific
>> scrutiny.  So the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t trust
>> science, but for different reasons.
>>
>>
>>
>> So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of statistics
>> and samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary numbers...
>> right [image: image001.png]‘'
>>
>>
>>
>> In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or an
>> election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand,
>> don’t believe it, it is flawed... ???
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM
>>
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>
>> *Cc:* 'Chuck McCown'
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] OT Political
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and “Science”
>> should be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative ranking
>> to come up with those percentages.  I don’t believe for a minute that only
>> a bare majority of any political party thinks science is important.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the survey
>> questions.  If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people of
>> all races” the percentages would be high across the board.  You’d have to
>> phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used to come
>> up with those numbers.  I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make up an
>> imaginary number”.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Political
>>
>>
>>
>> Been too quiet around here.  Thought I would try to ignite another
>> brushfire.
>>
>>
>>
>> This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it.
>>
>> Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: image002.png]
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