Probably an appropriate destination for political threads...

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political

i just wanted to show off my shitter. 

Its sitting on a road in a subdivision in rural IL. If anybody needs to drop a 
deuce. 

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:00 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  Gheeze Steve, I was expecting you to throw gasoline on the fire....  so you 
are calling lent?!?

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:49 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political

  Heres a pic of my porta potty. Its use rate currently has a value of like 65 
bucks a turd. 
  Also, here is a pic of the water main we located for the water company.
  It was a fine Columbus day, as are many during the holiday season of lent.

  On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 11:18 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

    If "Mad Dog" was convinced enough to write about him, and you don't believe 
him, you are indoctrinated...


    On 10/11/22 8:26 AM, Chuck Macenski wrote:

      I think he loves what the country can do for him and is happy to divide 
the nation as a means to that end. Whatever good came from his administration's 
policies, I believe the collateral damage outweighs the benefit. 


      On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 9:56 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Oh I’ll say it.  He doesn’t love this country.



        From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
        Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 1:20 AM
        To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



        But you can’t say he doesn’t love this country and did some great 
things for it 😊.





        Rory



        From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
        Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 8:31 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
        Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



        Zero loyalty is a primary feature of Trump.  He would toss his mother 
under the bus.  I have heard AOC say some anti demo stuff.  Not much.

        Sent from my iPhone



          On Oct 10, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

           the way that the trump cult vilifies any other position in the 
_republican_ party is what sets them apart.   Does AOC vilify Biden?

          On 10/10/22 9:25 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

            The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll 
reinstate Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion. 
There's plenty of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my daily 
for 4 years. I had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed 2022 Model S 
and love both. 



            If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the 
lowest IQs in America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan 
Klepper trump" on youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how 
"poorly educated" some are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the 
cult. You can be Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone 
off the deep end.



            On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson 
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

              My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a 
large anti-EV contingent on the right:



              - A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being 
pushed by groups with an economic interest in an issue.  In this case it is 
fossil fuel energy which is a trillion dollar industry.  The world is moving 
towards EVs a whole lot faster than a lot in the industry expected.  It isn't 
surprising that wrenches are thrown into the works whenever possible.   



              - Most current EVs are expensive.  Money and liberals are more 
concentrated in urban areas.  It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above, when 
it is targeted at a group that is different form you.  



              On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Well the original description was “what is important to be 
taught at school”.  In that context, the chart made no sense at all.

                If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on 
racial issues in school then that does make sense.





                From: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
                Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM
                To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
<af@af.afmug.com>
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



                I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too 
little” response.  

                Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News.  



                From: Chuck McCown via AF 

                Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM

                To: dmmoff...@gmail.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

                Cc: Chuck McCown 

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political



                The question was as follows:



                “Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or 
too little time teaching about the following topics:”



                I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question.  

                The source is as follows: 

                The American Family Survey 2022.  It conducted online to a 
match sample on gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022.  The sample 
size is 3,000 and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%.  





                There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa.  
Evergreen State College.  They actually have a faction that teaches that you 
cannot trust science because it teaches concepts that are counter to 
postmodernism.  The extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up 
to scientific scrutiny.  So the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t 
trust science, but for different reasons.  



                So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of 
statistics and samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary 
numbers... right ‘'



                In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey 
(or an election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand, 
don’t believe it, it is flawed... ???



                From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 

                Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM

                To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

                Cc: 'Chuck McCown' 

                Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT Political



                Interesting.



                I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and 
“Science” should be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative 
ranking to come up with those percentages.  I don’t believe for a minute that 
only a bare majority of any political party thinks science is important.



                I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the 
survey questions.  If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people 
of all races” the percentages would be high across the board.  You’d have to 
phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread. 



                Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology 
used to come up with those numbers.  I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make 
up an imaginary number”.



                -Adam



                From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
via AF
                Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM
                To: af@af.afmug.com
                Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                Subject: [AFMUG] OT Political



                Been too quiet around here.  Thought I would try to ignite 
another brushfire.



                This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it.

                Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at 
school.  








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