Irrespective of whether you are religious or Christian or not, I find it 
interesting that a prophecy has come true, and literally made so by the 
internet and WISPS:  Luke 12:3

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 1:03 PM
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It is certainly an ugly game.  

From: Chuck Macenski 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 12:21 PM
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IMHO: it might be short-sighted to support someone who enjoys making people 
suffer needlessly. 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:51 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

Never been able to stand Trump as a human.  But he is effective with a certain 
segment of the population, so as a tool to get people I support elected, I 
suppose he may have some limited use.  As much as I dislike Trump, I dislike 
Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, the mayor of Chicago etc etc more.  Both parties 
have tons of wingnuts that get lots of press while hard working more reasonable 
lawmakers go unknown to most of us.  We really do have a nation that has two 
different realities.  Urban vs Rural.  Two different mentalities.  What works 
for one will not work for the other and that will never change.  Farmboy vs 
Cityboy.  Each view the other as somewhat stupid I think.  

From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 10:25 AM
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The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll reinstate 
Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion. There's plenty 
of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my daily for 4 years. I 
had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed 2022 Model S and love both. 

If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the lowest IQs in 
America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan Klepper trump" on 
youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how "poorly educated" some 
are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the cult. You can be 
Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone off the deep end.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> 
wrote:

My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a large anti-EV 
contingent on the right:

- A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being pushed by groups 
with an economic interest in an issue.  In this case it is fossil fuel energy 
which is a trillion dollar industry.  The world is moving towards EVs a whole 
lot faster than a lot in the industry expected.  It isn't surprising that 
wrenches are thrown into the works whenever possible.   

- Most current EVs are expensive.  Money and liberals are more concentrated in 
urban areas.  It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above, when it is targeted 
at a group that is different form you.  

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


Well the original description was “what is important to be taught at school”.  
In that context, the chart made no sense at all.

If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on racial issues 
in school then that does make sense.







From: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM
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I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little” response.  



Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News.  







From: Chuck McCown via AF 



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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political







The question was as follows:







“Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or too little time 
teaching about the following topics:”







I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question.  



The source is as follows: 



The American Family Survey 2022.  It conducted online to a match sample on 
gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022.  The sample size is 3,000 and 
the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%.  











There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa.  Evergreen State College. 
 They actually have a faction that teaches that you cannot trust science 
because it teaches concepts that are counter to postmodernism.  The extreme 
left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up to scientific scrutiny.  So 
the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t trust science, but for 
different reasons.  







So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of statistics and 
samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary numbers... right ‘'







In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or an election, 
which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand, don’t believe 
it, it is flawed... ???







From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 



Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM



To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 



Cc: 'Chuck McCown' 



Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT Political







Interesting.



I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and “Science” should be 
taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative ranking to come up 
with those percentages.  I don’t believe for a minute that only a bare majority 
of any political party thinks science is important.



I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the survey questions. 
 If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people of all races” the 
percentages would be high across the board.  You’d have to phrase it in some 
inflammatory way to get that spread. 



Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used to come up 
with those numbers.  I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make up an imaginary 
number”.



-Adam





From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
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Been too quiet around here.  Thought I would try to ignite another brushfire.







This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it.



Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school.  















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