Gen z is far less woke than millennials. Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 10, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: > > > Not like Fox hates liberals. > > They don't encourage violence and rile people up. Trumpers aren't a protected > class like race, sex, ethnicity, sexual preference. Hating people because of > these factors makes someone a bad person. > > Disliking people for supporting an evil man like trump doesn't make someone > hateful. Disliking people for any of the things listed above does make you > hateful. > > I don't hate people for supporting trump but I really dislike that they still > approve of the guy. And if you could scan someone's brain to see if they're > racist or homophobic, I guarantee the majority of trump supporters are. > There's a reason why white supremacists and anti-LGBT people love trump, and > not anyone on the left. Republicans in the next 10 years will have a very > hard time winning elections if Gen Z kids decide to vote. > > What I've seen from this generation is they won't accept what the right is > doing. Attacking people of color, women, LGBT, etc. This is their final nail > the coffin. The right is taking away freedoms and 80% of sexual scandals in > politics are from the right. They're projecting like crazy. They say the left > are groomers but far more Republicans have sex scandals like grooming kids, > prostitution, paying for abortions, being secretly gay but proclaiming that > gays are bad. Their belief is "rules for thee, not for me" > >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 4:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: >> MSNBC really hates trumpophiles... >> >> From: Darin Steffl >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 3:20 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >> >> It's not fair to say ALL cable news channels are uniformly evil. One lies a >> lot more than the other ones and that would be FOX. I read/watch FOX, CNN, >> and MSNBC periodically to see what is being said and written. If I fact >> check what I'm seeing, FOX lies at a much higher rate than the others. And >> Fox certainly spews more hate and fear mongering than anyone else out there. >> >> I read news from many sources and Fox is one of those just to see what kind >> of crap they're telling people today. It really is meant to scare people >> into voting their way. War on Christmas, War on church, War on blah blah blah >> >> Fox is an opinion network, not a news network. They've argued this in court >> many times and based on what I read and watch, I can confirm this to be >> true. CNN can be biased, but not in a way that attacks people like Fox. >> Watching CNN doesn't push people into being racist or homophobic like Fox >> does. It doesn't call black people thugs or tell people they all belong in >> prison. Liberal news doesn't force religion on everyone whether they believe >> it or not. There is and always should be separation of church and state. >> >> Anyone that has watched or read both can confirm that Fox spews hate and >> CNN/MSNBC and others are more fact based with some emotion added in but not >> for hate towards people. >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: >>> I don’t give him a pass, but I recognize he is effective at times in >>> getting things done I would like to see done. >>> >>> I like what our governor of Utah said last week, he said Fox, CNN, MSNBC >>> and other cable news sources are uniformly evil. He doesn’t watch any of >>> them and is now 9 years sober from cable news. He talked about how they >>> employ psychologists to modify content to effectively keep viewers >>> addicted. >>> >>> From: dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 1:09 PM >>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> I’ve never understood why so many people acknowledge Trump is a bad person >>> and then give him a pass anyway. How far does he have to go to become >>> personally unelectable? Is it actually *good* to have a politician around >>> who can motivate wingnuts to vote a certain way? >>> >>> >>> >>> Both major parties do have their share of wingnuts whom they have to cater >>> to in order to have a majority on anything, but wouldn’t it be nice if the >>> adults could talk and just tell the idiots in the room to shut up? I’ve >>> been looking at parliamentary systems in other countries and wondering if >>> we messed this up early on. Parliamentary countries seem to end up with two >>> or three mainstream parties with most of the seats and then the various >>> single issue and/or crazy parties each get their own little slice of the >>> seats. Then they get to stand in the room and say their piece, but nobody >>> really has to pay them undue attention. >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe more importantly we should put a leash on our cable news channels. >>> Make them put a flashing disclaimer banner on all the editorial shows >>> saying “THIS IS OPINION ONLY, NOT FACTUAL REPORTING”. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have no solutions for fixing internet content. At least none that are >>> tolerable in a free society. Maybe every high school should include >>> information literacy as a course. Remind the kids that anyone can post any >>> kind of nonsense on the internet and it’s safer to assume it’s bullshit >>> unless they post sources and you can independently verify those sources. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF >>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 12:50 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Never been able to stand Trump as a human. But he is effective with a >>> certain segment of the population, so as a tool to get people I support >>> elected, I suppose he may have some limited use. As much as I dislike >>> Trump, I dislike Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, the mayor of Chicago etc etc >>> more. Both parties have tons of wingnuts that get lots of press while hard >>> working more reasonable lawmakers go unknown to most of us. We really do >>> have a nation that has two different realities. Urban vs Rural. Two >>> different mentalities. What works for one will not work for the other and >>> that will never change. Farmboy vs Cityboy. Each view the other as >>> somewhat stupid I think. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Darin Steffl >>> >>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 10:25 AM >>> >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll >>> reinstate Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion. >>> There's plenty of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my >>> daily for 4 years. I had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed >>> 2022 Model S and love both. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the lowest IQs >>> in America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan Klepper >>> trump" on youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how "poorly >>> educated" some are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the cult. >>> You can be Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone off >>> the deep end. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a large >>> anti-EV contingent on the right: >>> >>> >>> >>> - A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being pushed by >>> groups with an economic interest in an issue. In this case it is fossil >>> fuel energy which is a trillion dollar industry. The world is moving >>> towards EVs a whole lot faster than a lot in the industry expected. It >>> isn't surprising that wrenches are thrown into the works whenever possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Most current EVs are expensive. Money and liberals are more concentrated >>> in urban areas. It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above, when it is >>> targeted at a group that is different form you. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well the original description was “what is important to be taught at >>> school”. In that context, the chart made no sense at all. >>> >>> If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on racial >>> issues in school then that does make sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM >>> To: dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> <af@af.afmug.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little” response. >>> >>> Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Chuck McCown via AF >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM >>> >>> To: dmmoff...@gmail.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> >>> Cc: Chuck McCown >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> The question was as follows: >>> >>> >>> >>> “Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or too little >>> time teaching about the following topics:” >>> >>> >>> >>> I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question. >>> >>> The source is as follows: >>> >>> The American Family Survey 2022. It conducted online to a match sample on >>> gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022. The sample size is 3,000 >>> and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa. Evergreen State >>> College. They actually have a faction that teaches that you cannot trust >>> science because it teaches concepts that are counter to postmodernism. The >>> extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up to scientific >>> scrutiny. So the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t trust >>> science, but for different reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>> So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of statistics and >>> samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary numbers... right ‘' >>> >>> >>> >>> In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or an >>> election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand, >>> don’t believe it, it is flawed... ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM >>> >>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> >>> Cc: 'Chuck McCown' >>> >>> Subject: RE: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and “Science” should >>> be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative ranking to come >>> up with those percentages. I don’t believe for a minute that only a bare >>> majority of any political party thinks science is important. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the survey >>> questions. If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people of >>> all races” the percentages would be high across the board. You’d have to >>> phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used to come >>> up with those numbers. I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make up an >>> imaginary number”. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF >>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM >>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Been too quiet around here. Thought I would try to ignite another >>> brushfire. >>> >>> >>> >>> This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it. >>> >>> Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> >>> Like us on Facebook >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> Like us on Facebook >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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