Jamie, you really think the problem lies solely with republicans?  If the 
democrats did the Australian solution everything would be better and all 
problems would go away?  Republicans are spawn of satan and universally evil?  

Worst school massacre was 95 years ago.  A guy got upset with his property tax 
bill and a few other things, wired up the school house and blew them all up.  
45 dead 58 injured.    There will always be anarchists and sociopaths.  With or 
without Trump.   This guy was a staunch democrat.  

https://www.mlive.com/news/2017/05/10_things_you_probably_didnt_k.html

The current bout of crisis is young people that grew up with a constant diet of 
first person shooter video games and a society that breeds the grit out of 
young people.  Let them fantasize about mass murder, practice it a virtual 
environment, never tell them no, never give them a beating.  What would expect 
the outcome would be?

Of course I have no knowledge of the backgrounds of the latest kids doing this 
stuff, so this is just my theorizing, but I don’t blame a political party for 
columbine kids.  I blame their parents first and foremost.  But what you gonna 
do if you kid truly is a sociopath/psychopath.  Ted Bundy had a mom too.  




From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

Fuck our piece of shit governor,  Trumpabbott and all his gun loving 
supporters... 
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky,  Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun Cruzado...fuck them to hell

On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

  18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the right. 
These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun control. 

  Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be passed. 
Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.

  Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do nothing. 
They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun nuts happy. 
Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.

  Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and 
shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians and 
ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass shootings 
only happen in America.

  I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your 
party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action! 

  On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Figuratively inside the lines.  







    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
    Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



    ...you mean outside the lines?



    On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of 
rules and they do want you to color inside the lines.





      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
      Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
      To: af@af.afmug.com
      Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



      Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted 
fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides so 
the profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt oil 
in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix on it and 
compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed some of 
the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his machine.  
Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they just shut off the burner 
and pump and add more the next day.



      An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job 
where he emptied his sprayer.  



      Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down 
rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with the 
exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year before.  
Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it and we 
cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to get off his 
work site or I would be arrested.



      From: Bill Prince 

      Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM

      To: af@af.afmug.com 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



      but it's organic.

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

        “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and 
concrete are environmentally friendly”



        Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill







        From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
        Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
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        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



        Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of 
governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile road, 
you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no single 
governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have road issues 
now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And if john at mile 
6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at mile 23 is gonna 
charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't 
believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly, so mile 36 is made 
of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at mile 52 is a dick and 
stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at mile 99 he doesn't like 
people so he put boulders across his mile.

        These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone 
else's, they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their 
arguments break down after a little long term logic.



        I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not 
push too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a 
fingerful of shit.



        On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

          Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the 
(Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.



          -Sean





          On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

            I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on 
board.  I registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.  

            …..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with 
and some others are absolutely insane.  



            From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
            Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



            Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially 
identify as libertarian, I don't do that anymore.

            On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

              Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like 
Lauren Bobert elected lol :-/



              On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if 
you want a libertarian!



                On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> 
wrote:

                  <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park> 



                  Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, 
y’all need to go back to bed and get some rest.



                  -Sean



                  (For the record I’m registered independent , socially 
liberal, fiscally conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a 
throwaway vote)







                  On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                    Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  
Everyone could use some more grit.



                    In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” 
people never affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in 
the trying.  Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to 
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.  



                    What good does it do to tell some red necked construction 
worker that he is being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I 
try to teach by example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my 
employee, I address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire them.  



                    Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They 
invent a noble cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in 
socially impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  
Look at antifa and proud boys.  



                    Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the 
exact same reasons.  The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are 
trying to advance.  



                    From: Cameron Crum 

                    Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM

                    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



                    You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. 





                    On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                      Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally 
alt-right.  All ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from 
substance abuse and suffered a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving 
two are always broke, angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around 
them so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.



                      …..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for 
me to pass judgement.



                      On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like 
they’re the rebels fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in 
Utah feel like they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.







                      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via AF
                      Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
                      To: af@af.afmug.com
                      Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                      Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political



                      Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.  



                      That is how I would describe some of my kids.



                      The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and 
happiness.  



                      Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at 
family dinners just to be able to still see some of my kids.  

                      Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole 
for a lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at 
their whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour 
walk in the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.  



                      Odd times....

                      I loved my parents and grandparents.  

                      Never felt they had to earn it.  

                      Never would have thought of condemning them for the 
things they said.  



                      Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  
Our families were separate all while the kids were growing.

                      But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using 
the exact same vernacular. 



                      Must have something to do with energy drinks I think. 

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