Let me know when the criminals have handed over their guns and we can talk.
Your solution involves criminal compliance, and once you have shown that
they will, I have no issue with a conversation. The onus is on you however
to show proof of concept

On Tue, May 24, 2022, 7:34 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the
> right. These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun
> control.
>
> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be
> passed. Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
>
> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do
> nothing. They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun
> nuts happy. Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
>
> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and
> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians
> and ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass
> shootings only happen in America.
>
> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your
> party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Figuratively inside the lines.
>>
>> [image: Color Within the Lines - Album by Oscar Ortega | Spotify]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of
>> rules and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted
>> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides
>> so the profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky
>> apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix
>> on it and compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he
>> sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel
>> empty his machine.  Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they
>> just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>>
>>
>>
>> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job
>> where he emptied his sprayer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down
>> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with
>> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
>> before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it
>> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to
>> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> but it's organic.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and
>> concrete are environmentally friendly”
>>
>>
>>
>> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of
>> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile
>> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no
>> single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have
>> road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And
>> if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at
>> mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke
>> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly,
>> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at
>> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at
>> mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
>>
>> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's,
>> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their
>> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not
>> push too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a
>> fingerful of shit.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the
>> (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board.  I
>> registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.
>>
>> …..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with and
>> some others are absolutely insane.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify
>> as libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren
>> Bobert elected lol :-/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if you want a
>> libertarian!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need
>> to go back to bed and get some rest.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally
>> conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone could use
>> some more grit.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never
>> affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the
>> trying.  Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to
>> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.
>>
>>
>>
>> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he
>> is being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to
>> teach by example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my
>> employee, I address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a noble
>> cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially
>> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at
>> antifa and proud boys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same
>> reasons.  The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying
>> to advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Cameron Crum
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All
>> ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse
>> and suffered a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are
>> always broke, angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them
>> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> …..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to pass
>> judgement.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels
>> fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel like
>> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>
>>
>>
>> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
>>
>>
>>
>> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>>
>>
>>
>> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
>>
>>
>>
>> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners
>> just to be able to still see some of my kids.
>>
>> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime
>> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims
>> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in
>> the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
>>
>>
>>
>> Odd times....
>>
>> I loved my parents and grandparents.
>>
>> Never felt they had to earn it.
>>
>> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.
>>
>>
>>
>> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were
>> separate all while the kids were growing.
>>
>> But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same
>> vernacular.
>>
>>
>>
>> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
>>
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