Not being argumentative, curious, the guy that shot up the youth camp, where 
did he get his gun?  I would presume Norway had more strict gun laws than the 
US.

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> On May 24, 2022, at 6:32 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 18 more children shot and killed. Fuck thoughts and prayers from the right. 
> These damn Republicans MUST agree to some sort of sensible gun control.
> 
> Guns need to be hard to purchase, not easy. Red flag laws need to be passed. 
> Background checks for any and all purchases, no exceptions.
> 
> Another shooting, more dead children and the Republicans want to do nothing. 
> They'll gladly keep letting Americans die in order to keep gun nuts happy. 
> Something over 60% of Americans support stricter gun control.
> 
> Republicans continue to be the pro-death party. How embarrassing and 
> shameful!! If you vote republican, start reaching out to your politicians and 
> ask them to fucking do something!! This is a goddamn joke. These mass 
> shootings only happen in America.
> 
> I support if you're conservative but you must voice your opinion if your 
> party keeps messing up. Tell them to take action! 
> 
>> On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Figuratively inside the lines.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ...you mean outside the lines?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules 
>> and they do want you to color inside the lines.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted 
>> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides so 
>> the profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt 
>> oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix on it 
>> and compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed 
>> some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his 
>> machine.  Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they just shut off 
>> the burner and pump and add more the next day.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job where 
>> he emptied his sprayer. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down 
>> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with 
>> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year 
>> before.  Same inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it 
>> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to 
>> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Bill Prince
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
>> 
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> but it's organic.
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and 
>> concrete are environmentally friendly”
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of 
>> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile 
>> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no single 
>> governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have road 
>> issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And if 
>> john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at mile 
>> 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke 
>> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly, 
>> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at 
>> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at mile 
>> 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
>> 
>> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's, 
>> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their 
>> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push 
>> too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a 
>> fingerful of shit.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the 
>> (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Sean
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board.  I 
>> registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet. 
>> 
>> …..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with and some 
>> others are absolutely insane. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify as 
>> libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
>> 
>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren 
>> Bobert elected lol :-/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if you want a 
>> libertarian!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>> 
>> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need to 
>> go back to bed and get some rest.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Sean
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally 
>> conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone could use 
>> some more grit.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never 
>> affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the trying.  
>> Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to 
>> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he is 
>> being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to teach by 
>> example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my employee, I 
>> address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire them. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a noble cause 
>> with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially impolitic 
>> ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at antifa and 
>> proud boys. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same reasons.  
>> The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying to 
>> advance. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Cameron Crum
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All ex-military, 
>> all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse and suffered 
>> a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are always broke, 
>> angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they don’t 
>> fly off the handle about anything.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> …..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to pass judgement.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels 
>> fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel like 
>> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just 
>> to be able to still see some of my kids. 
>> 
>> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime 
>> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims 
>> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in 
>> the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Odd times....
>> 
>> I loved my parents and grandparents. 
>> 
>> Never felt they had to earn it. 
>> 
>> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our families were 
>> separate all while the kids were growing.
>> 
>> But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the exact same 
>> vernacular.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
>> 
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