...you mean outside the lines?
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> NYDOT can be pretty accommodating, but they definitely have a lot of rules
> and they do want you to color inside the lines.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> Once we had to cut a road with an excavator. Then we had to do compacted
> fill in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides
> so the profile of the patch formed a T shape. We used the hot sticky
> apshalt oil in a sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix
> on it and compacting. The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he
> sprayed some of the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel
> empty his machine. Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they
> just shut off the burner and pump and add more the next day.
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> An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job
> where he emptied his sprayer.
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> Then the next year they chip sealed that road. That involves laying down
> rock chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with
> the exact same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year
> before. Same inspector was there. I got out and asked why UDOT can do it
> and we cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous. He told me to
> get off his work site or I would be arrested.
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> *From:* Bill Prince
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
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> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> but it's organic.
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> bp
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> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
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> “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and
> concrete are environmentally friendly”
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> Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill
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> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of
> governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile
> road, you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no
> single governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have
> road issues now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And
> if john at mile 6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at
> mile 23 is gonna charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke
> parents) doesn't believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly,
> so mile 36 is made of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at
> mile 52 is a dick and stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at
> mile 99 he doesn't like people so he put boulders across his mile.
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> These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's,
> they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their
> arguments break down after a little long term logic.
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> I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push
> too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a
> fingerful of shit.
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> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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> Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the
> (Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.
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> -Sean
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> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board. I
> registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.
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> …..and then I met the other libertarians. Some I can relate with and some
> others are absolutely insane.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify as
> libertarian, I don't do that anymore.
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> On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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> Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren
> Bobert elected lol :-/
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> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> It's not a throwaway vote!!!! You have to vote libertarian if you want a
> libertarian!
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> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
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> <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park>
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> Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all need to
> go back to bed and get some rest.
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> -Sean
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> (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, fiscally
> conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)
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> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
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> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone could use
> some more grit.
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> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never
> affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves in the
> trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to
> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.
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> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he
> is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor. And I try to
> teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if they are my
> employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I fire
> them.
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> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a noble
> cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially
> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist. Look at
> antifa and proud boys.
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> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same
> reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying
> to advance.
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> *From:* Cameron Crum
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> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
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> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
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> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All
> ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse
> and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are
> always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them
> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
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> …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to pass
> judgement.
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> On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels
> fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in Utah feel like
> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political
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> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
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> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
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> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
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> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners just
> to be able to still see some of my kids.
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> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime
> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims
> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in
> the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
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> Odd times....
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> I loved my parents and grandparents.
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> Never felt they had to earn it.
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> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.
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> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our families were
> separate all while the kids were growing.
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> But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the exact same
> vernacular.
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> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
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