Once we had to cut a road with an excavator.  Then we had to do compacted fill 
in lifts, the asphalt on the top had to be milled down on both sides so the 
profile of the patch formed a T shape.  We used the hot sticky apshalt oil in a 
sprayer to spray down the T patch prior to dumping hot mix on it and 
compacting.  The guy running the sprayer was almost empty so he sprayed some of 
the gravel on the edges of the road surface in the gravel empty his machine.  
Not sure why he wanted to empty it as normally they just shut off the burner 
and pump and add more the next day.

An inspector came out and made us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean up job where he 
emptied his sprayer.  

Then the next year they chip sealed that road.  That involves laying down rock 
chips and spraying the whole road and a portion of the shoulder with the exact 
same hot sticky asphalt oil mix we got in trouble for the year before.  Same 
inspector was there.  I got out and asked why UDOT can do it and we cannot, is 
the UDOT hot asphalt oil less hazardous.  He told me to get off his work site 
or I would be arrested.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

but it's organic.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  “kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't believe asphalt and 
concrete are environmentally friendly”

   

  Well an asphalt road is kind of like a really long oil spill

   

   

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:35 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

   

  Most libertarians I know are just crybabies. They want the benefits of 
governance without the costs. In a libertarian society to have a 100 mile road, 
you would destroy your car every trip because there would be no single 
governing body to maintain it in a consistent manner. Sure we have road issues 
now, but every property line you cross would be a new road. And if john at mile 
6 like cobblestone, its cobblestone, and you know keith at mile 23 is gonna 
charge a 42 dollar toll, kile (with an I not a Y and woke parents) doesn't 
believe asphalt and concrete are environmentally friendly, so mile 36 is made 
of soy and has long since been eaten by animals, paul at mile 52 is a dick and 
stores all his nails on his road, then Greg up at mile 99 he doesn't like 
people so he put boulders across his mile.

  These fools are just kid brains who want no government of someone else's, 
they want their government based on their current whim. Most of their arguments 
break down after a little long term logic.

   

  I also forgot to mention, just like wiping your ass, it's best to not push 
too hard on a 2022 liberal, you'll just end up pushing through to a fingerful 
of shit.

   

  On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

    Yeah the libertarian platform I agree with, the Koch brothers and the 
(Ron/Rand) Paul family are too far out there in whackadoodle land for me.

     

    -Sean

     

     

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      I read the Libertarian part platform and thought I could be on board.  I 
registered as Libertarian and carried the card in my wallet.  

      …..and then I met the other libertarians.  Some I can relate with and 
some others are absolutely insane.  

       

      From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
      Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

       

      Yeah, the nutjobs ruined that designation. I used to partially identify 
as libertarian, I don't do that anymore.

      On Thursday, May 19, 2022, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

        Here in ColoRADo voting libertarian ends up getting people like Lauren 
Bobert elected lol :-/

         

        On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:15 AM Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

          It's not a throwaway vote!!!!  You have to vote libertarian if you 
want a libertarian!

           

          On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:06 AM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

            <Say in the voice of Mr. Mackey from South Park> 

             

            Mmmkay everyone, all you “woke” people are tried and cranky, y’all 
need to go back to bed and get some rest.

             

            -Sean

             

            (For the record I’m registered independent , socially liberal, 
fiscally conservative, I would vote libertarian if it wasn’t a throwaway vote)

             

             

             

            On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

              Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up.  Everyone 
could use some more grit.

               

              In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people 
never affect positive change.  And frequently they harm themselves in the 
trying.  Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to 
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.  

               

              What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker 
that he is being racist?  I just avoid those with views I abhor.  And I try to 
teach by example.  But I never call anyone out.  At work, if they are my 
employee, I address the concern in private.  If they don’t change I fire them.  

               

              Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion.  They invent a 
noble cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially 
impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind,  to be an anarchist.  Look at 
antifa and proud boys.  

               

              Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact 
same reasons.  The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are 
trying to advance.  

               

              From: Cameron Crum 

              Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM

              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

               

              You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. 

               

               

              On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Weirdly opposite here.  My brothers are vocally alt-right.  All 
ex-military, all purport to be Christian.  One is dead from substance abuse and 
suffered a variety of mental health issues.  The surviving two are always 
broke, angry, and unhappy.  I feel like I have to tiptoe around them so they 
don’t fly off the handle about anything.

                 

                …..and I’m not at all “woke”.  I just know it’s not for me to 
pass judgement.

                 

                On the other hand, this is NY.  Maybe they feel like they’re 
the rebels fighting the evil liberal death star.  Maybe your kids in Utah feel 
like they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.

                 

                 

                 

                From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
via AF
                Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
                To: af@af.afmug.com
                Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political

                 

                Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.  

                 

                That is how I would describe some of my kids.

                 

                The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.  

                 

                Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family 
dinners just to be able to still see some of my kids.  

                Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a 
lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their 
whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in 
the woods.  Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.  

                 

                Odd times....

                I loved my parents and grandparents.  

                Never felt they had to earn it.  

                Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they 
said.  

                 

                Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me.  Our 
families were separate all while the kids were growing.

                But some of hers have done the same things to her.  Using the 
exact same vernacular. 

                 

                Must have something to do with energy drinks I think. 

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