I'm not sure if I've said this publicly on the list or not.... I figure that I'm going to stay sequestered and away from people until May or June of next year. By then, it should have started to subside, we should have a vaccine available at least to part of the population, and the therapeutics/treatment options will be improved as well.
Everything I hear is that this is still *not* something you want to catch. Especially if you're a middle-aged very overweight male with a history of exercise-induced asthma. On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:34 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > One thing that seems to be true is that they have figured out strategies > to keep many more people alive than they did during the first peak. If it > can be treated, then we can relax a bit until we can get the vaccine. > Still, I am more vigilant and locked in than when it first began. > > At least we have a world series to watch and at least BYU is playing an > almost full football schedule. > Snow this morning at my house too. > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:31 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting > > Utah is overflowing at the hospitals. > > *From:* Mike Meluskey > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:24 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting > > > Father-in-Law is an MD in the Lubbock, TX area. Their hospitals are full. > > On 26 Oct 2020, at 15:20, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You said > that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved everyone > who can remote. > > I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now look at > El Paso. This is not going away after the election. > > On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said that the > natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual seasons, with this one > in particular being predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have > treatments now that are effective, we quit killing people with ventilators > the way were were in the beginning, healthcare isnt overwhelmed and theres > no shortage of PPE. We only have 8 days until reporting on this changes to > be less terrifying. > > Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and innoculated, 3 months > permanent, no one knows if this is different thatn 99 percent of other > viruses. but of the well over 30 million people who were verified positive > via testing and have since recovered, less than 20 globally have been > reinfected, so odds are the vast majority are immune. > > Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all positions that can > be remote to remote. techs dont go any further than the garage if they dont > have to. Its techs choice to mask up and glove up, and as long as they > choose to mask up and glove up, it will continue to be there choice. This > is only applicable to interiors, theyre not required to mask outside, thats > simply ignorant to require and its not "following the science" . ut the > tech can choose to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a > condom all day, its none of our concern. > > Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it on the > percentage of total tests that are positive, its gotten colder, so people > arent getting tested on a whim and we are back to primarily people with > risk factors getting tested, the positivity rate went up as would be > expected, but not as high as anticipated. > > If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations (luckily I have > ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on media reports and politically > charged public health departments, i am privy to internal census reports in > healthcare) then we will look toward lower contact solutions, and no > contact if our coverage area sees a legitimate surge. > > We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was infected, we cancelled > him for his quarantine period. We dont have in person company meetings. > When we are together on project work we dont ride in the same vehicle, we > just dont take any unnecessary risk, but we also dont let risk avoidance > unnecessarily impact operations. > > I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a hospital, we > are exposed constantly. (the low incidence of healthcare transmission is an > oddity that after the politics of this thing are over I hope they do some > deep diving into, its either going to boil down to we still dont actually > know how its primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high incidence > of low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated without actually > catching it, similar to how some allergies can be beaten through very low > dose exposures to the allergen, will be interesting research when the > politics of it are over) > > Every single "look at this country, look at that country" has turned out > to be wrong on both sides of the argument, even WHO says lockdowns are the > wrong solution now. > > Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a bunch of people > in prison, even in this industry there will probably be some prison > sentences handed out, the money came with requirements, it wasnt just free > cash to grow a company. > > > I can tell you there is something going around thats causing chest xrays > to look exactly like covid damage, but no testing method is identifying the > presence of covid or history of its presence, thats concerning, keep that > in mind when relaxing policies. Its flu season, and given the disruption of > interaction, this years flu vaccine is not going to very effective, its > worth keeping covid policies in place regardless to not have staff out with > a wild flu. > > And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8 days of hell, > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people just want to >> fucking party... >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >>> Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we can say is “at >>> least we’re not Wisconsin”. >>> >>> >>> >>> I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to live in Maine, where >>> “social distancing” was already the norm. (bike photo was actually from a >>> ride a month ago up to the Quebec border) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel and stuff because two >>> electricians would wear masks...I wasn't there , I would have made them >>> step outside ...our boss complained to water utilities because we are on a >>> schedule with several people. >>> >>> The control room is small. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes < >>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>> >>> We are doing normal installs for now. Watching our local county info in >>> internal tracking systems I developed. >>> >>> >>> >>> So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things severely spike this >>> winter we will shut down installs again. >>> >>> >>> >>> At this point we are not masking nor requiring customers to wear masks - >>> but we do ask customers to stay 10feet away from techs. This point will be >>> driven home even more as we go into the winter months. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse not better, and despite what >>> anybody says the end is not just around the corner. >>> >>> >>> >>> I remember at the beginning some WISPs were not sending techs inside >>> customer homes, maybe pushing a cable through the wall and having the >>> customer plug in the POE and router. Is anybody still declining to do >>> inside work? Installs, repairs? >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge” not to disconnect customers >>> for nonpayment during the pandemic. How many are still doing that, and >>> assuming things won’t be back to “normal” until well into 2021 or even >>> 2022, how long do you plan to continue? Are you taking any additional >>> steps, like downgrading their speed or declining to do upgrades, or >>> requiring proof of hardship? I know this wasn’t mandatory, but if we did >>> it voluntarily, should there be a time limit? And if at that point they >>> are 6-12 months behind, do we write that off rather than expecting they >>> will catch up? >>> >>> >>> >>> It’s also interesting I see on cable company forums issues about mask >>> refusal, both by techs and customers, and even of customers who have Covid >>> but still want their Internet fixed. I hesitate to bring this up because >>> it has become a political or “freedom” issue in a way that seatbelts or >>> smoking or wearing a yellow vest at a grain elevator or even picking up >>> after your dog isn’t, and I’m tired of being caught in the middle. But >>> take the extreme case of a customer who recently tested positive or the >>> tech gets there and strongly suspects someone in the house is contagious, >>> is this really happening, and what is your response? 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