"I figure that I'm going to stay sequestered and away from people until
May or June of next year."
Is that because of COVID or because of a general dislike for people and
COVID makes a great excuse? ;-)
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*From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Monday, October 26, 2020 3:11:13 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting
I'm not sure if I've said this publicly on the list or not....
I figure that I'm going to stay sequestered and away from people until
May or June of next year. By then, it should have started to subside,
we should have a vaccine available at least to part of the population,
and the therapeutics/treatment options will be improved as well.
Everything I hear is that this is still *not* something you want to
catch. Especially if you're a middle-aged very overweight male with a
history of exercise-induced asthma.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:34 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
One thing that seems to be true is that they have figured out
strategies to keep many more people alive than they did during the
first peak. If it can be treated, then we can relax a bit until we
can get the vaccine. Still, I am more vigilant and locked in than
when it first began.
At least we have a world series to watch and at least BYU is playing
an almost full football schedule.
Snow this morning at my house too.
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:31 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting
Utah is overflowing at the hospitals.
*From:* Mike Meluskey
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:24 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting
Father-in-Law is an MD in the Lubbock, TX area. Their hospitals are
full.
On 26 Oct 2020, at 15:20, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting
information. You said that this seems like it’s a joke but then
also that you’ve moved everyone who can remote.
I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right
now look at El Paso. This is not going away after the election.
On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly
said that the natural progression of any novel virus is 3
annual seasons, with this one in particular being
predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have treatments
now that are effective, we quit killing people with
ventilators the way were were in the beginning, healthcare
isnt overwhelmed and theres no shortage of PPE. We only have
8 days until reporting on this changes to be less terrifying.
Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and
innoculated, 3 months permanent, no one knows if this is
different thatn 99 percent of other viruses. but of the well
over 30 million people who were verified positive via
testing and have since recovered, less than 20 globally have
been reinfected, so odds are the vast majority are immune.
Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all
positions that can be remote to remote. techs dont go any
further than the garage if they dont have to. Its techs
choice to mask up and glove up, and as long as they choose
to mask up and glove up, it will continue to be there
choice. This is only applicable to interiors, theyre not
required to mask outside, thats simply ignorant to require
and its not "following the science" . ut the tech can choose
to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a condom
all day, its none of our concern.
Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it
on the percentage of total tests that are positive, its
gotten colder, so people arent getting tested on a whim and
we are back to primarily people with risk factors getting
tested, the positivity rate went up as would be expected,
but not as high as anticipated.
If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations
(luckily I have ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on
media reports and politically charged public health
departments, i am privy to internal census reports in
healthcare) then we will look toward lower contact
solutions, and no contact if our coverage area sees a
legitimate surge.
We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was
infected, we cancelled him for his quarantine period. We
dont have in person company meetings. When we are together
on project work we dont ride in the same vehicle, we just
dont take any unnecessary risk, but we also dont let risk
avoidance unnecessarily impact operations.
I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a
hospital, we are exposed constantly. (the low incidence of
healthcare transmission is an oddity that after the politics
of this thing are over I hope they do some deep diving into,
its either going to boil down to we still dont actually know
how its primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high
incidence of low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated
without actually catching it, similar to how some allergies
can be beaten through very low dose exposures to the
allergen, will be interesting research when the politics of
it are over)
Every single "look at this country, look at that country"
has turned out to be wrong on both sides of the argument,
even WHO says lockdowns are the wrong solution now.
Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a
bunch of people in prison, even in this industry there will
probably be some prison sentences handed out, the money came
with requirements, it wasnt just free cash to grow a company.
I can tell you there is something going around thats causing
chest xrays to look exactly like covid damage, but no
testing method is identifying the presence of covid or
history of its presence, thats concerning, keep that in mind
when relaxing policies. Its flu season, and given the
disruption of interaction, this years flu vaccine is not
going to very effective, its worth keeping covid policies in
place regardless to not have staff out with a wild flu.
And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8
days of hell,
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people
just want to fucking party...
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof
<af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we
can say is “at least we’re not Wisconsin”.____
____
I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to
live in Maine, where “social distancing” was already
the norm. (bike photo was actually from a ride a
month ago up to the Quebec border)____
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*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
*Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and
counting____
____
On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel
and stuff because two electricians would wear
masks...I wasn't there , I would have made them step
outside ...our boss complained to water utilities
because we are on a schedule with several people. ____
The control room is small. ____
____
____
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:____
We are doing normal installs for now. Watching
our local county info in internal tracking
systems I developed. ____
____
So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things
severely spike this winter we will shut down
installs again. ____
____
At this point we are not masking nor requiring
customers to wear masks - but we do ask
customers to stay 10feet away from techs. This
point will be driven home even more as we go
into the winter months. ____
____
On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof
<af...@kwisp.com> wrote:____
____
So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse
not better, and despite what anybody says
the end is not just around the corner.____
____
I remember at the beginning some WISPs were
not sending techs inside customer homes,
maybe pushing a cable through the wall and
having the customer plug in the POE and
router. Is anybody still declining to do
inside work? Installs, repairs?____
____
Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge”
not to disconnect customers for nonpayment
during the pandemic. How many are still
doing that, and assuming things won’t be
back to “normal” until well into 2021 or
even 2022, how long do you plan to
continue? Are you taking any additional
steps, like downgrading their speed or
declining to do upgrades, or requiring proof
of hardship? I know this wasn’t mandatory,
but if we did it voluntarily, should there
be a time limit? And if at that point they
are 6-12 months behind, do we write that off
rather than expecting they will catch up?____
____
It’s also interesting I see on cable company
forums issues about mask refusal, both by
techs and customers, and even of customers
who have Covid but still want their Internet
fixed. I hesitate to bring this up because
it has become a political or “freedom” issue
in a way that seatbelts or smoking or
wearing a yellow vest at a grain elevator or
even picking up after your dog isn’t, and
I’m tired of being caught in the middle. But
take the extreme case of a customer who
recently tested positive or the tech gets
there and strongly suspects someone in the
house is contagious, is this really
happening, and what is your response? At
the beginning I would ask when setting up
every appointment, has anyone in the house
tested positive, but I’ve come to believe
that’s pointless.____
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