rich pepo On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah... it is embarrassing... > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2020 9:56 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: COVID Exposure and the real world > > By the way, you have a garage with more than one level? Can you park cars > on both? Is one like a big open room for grandkids? I am curious what the > Utah Elite home trends are these days. > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:25 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Nice. I see one on Ebay for $1400 but the rest start at $4000 and go up >> to $100K. >> >> *From:* Lewis Bergman >> *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2020 9:03 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: COVID Exposure and the real world >> >> A friend of mine just put this in his new house. I think you need a few. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:55 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I actually do have what you could call a bunker. That is what my >>> neighbors call it. Underground room off a tunnel that connects my house >>> basement with my garage lower level. Like to find a fancy old bank vault >>> door for it. I told my kids that when I croak they will find it stuffed >>> floor to ceiling with toilet paper. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:45 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> If the weather stayed like it’s been this week, you could just put a >>> comfy chair out on the lawn for her. >>> >>> >>> >>> My neighbors got some sort of tentlike gazebo thing. It’s probably just >>> a gazebo, but I’ve wondered if it’s a quarantine hut in case one of them >>> gets infected. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck could quarantine in his Vienna Sausage bunker. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2020 12:06 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [SPAM] Re: [AFMUG] COVID Exposure and the real world >>> >>> >>> >>> You geeks are pretty smart. >>> >>> I was thinking, there's nothing stopping me from making her room and our >>> upstairs bathroom negative pressure rooms with some 6 inch duct and duct >>> fans in a plywood and styrofoam cutout in the window. If I put a hepa >>> furnace filter on and a baffle it should keep any heat and bugs out of the >>> house. May help keep our upstairs cooler blowing heat out and drawing cool >>> air up from downstairs. Laying the duct to the floor should cause down >>> draft and get any potential airborne bugs out of the air. >>> >>> I'm thinking if I run humidifiers it should give any covid creatures >>> something weighty to attach to. >>> >>> My 15 year old opted to go stay with my neice because I gave him and the >>> 12 year old girl the current known political statistics and let them define >>> their own risk tolerance. If wife doesnt get symptomatic I'm letting him go >>> through with his baptism Sunday since he wont be exposed when she would >>> become contagious. But then again, church is the only place it spreads. >>> >>> The girl opted to stay >>> >>> The two littles dont have brain pan capacity to decide, since neither of >>> them talk yet. >>> >>> The fat baby is still on boob juice and CDC and who political >>> recommendations are to continue breast feeding but for mom to wear a >>> mask... odd to see common sense prevail from either of those places. >>> >>> Probably making a poor choice somewhere in all this but when you're >>> offered the option of a shit sandwich or a turd burger, the outcomes wont >>> be all that different. >>> >>> >>> >>> Boss was pretty cool, we are on the same page as far as risk exposure >>> and mitigation at work. This wont be her last exposure at work, though I >>> hope it's the last high risk one. And if she does test positive, then we >>> dont have to worry about them anymore. If I catch it and dont croak out >>> then we are riding on the golden ticket. We are both smokers and apparently >>> this particular disease that's a good thing since the vascular impact is >>> mitigated by our constant constriction, no covid toe for us. >>> >>> >>> >>> Looked like a hypochondriac at the store stocking up on vitamins for 3 >>> age ranges and normal cold/flu meds for 3 age ranges. Learning a ton about >>> vitamin D, C, potassium and Zinc tolerances. This sucks because something >>> in multivitamins cause me to get tinitus so the ringing will start here in >>> a couple days. But at least we will walk away in the habit of adjuncting >>> with vitamins. Probably something we should have been doing all along. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm guessing if I werent treating this like any disaster mitigation at >>> work I'd be freaking out like the wife. Hopefully I dont get to the point I >>> have it handled and have time to sit and think. Might result in a bit of a >>> brain bubble. >>> >>> >>> >>> Going to find out shortly just how accurate the "experts" are. Should be >>> an interesting week. According to CNN, since we are a right leaning >>> household, we are all going to die because of our guns. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:34 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This guy is a definite initial false negative. It technically wasn't an >>> initial rule out, it was a confirmation test, that's why the doc >>> immediately ordered second test. Since my initial post there's been a lot >>> of policy activity at the facility. A lot of staff exposure occurred. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM Matt Hoppes < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Keep in mind that that could be a false positive as well there are a lot >>> of both false negatives and false positives on the test. Unless they >>> perform several more tests you will never know for sure. >>> >>> > On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > So, the wife has a good probability of infection. She works at a >>> hospital as PCT (used to be CNA before PC). Patient came in with high >>> likelihood of COVID, Isolation protocols were put in place, initial test >>> came back negative, they pulled precautions. Still using basic surgical >>> masks and gloves (says right on box that it doesnt stop COVID-19). Patient >>> is on assistive ventilation, aerosolized secretions. >>> > Doctor snaps and orders new test, of course it comes back positive. >>> > So now multiple staff are exposed, the bad kind with aerosolized >>> secretions, thats the healthcare exposure they warn about. >>> > Of course today the hospital changes policy to mandatory eye >>> protection (bit late knuckleheads) >>> > inept >>> > >>> > I could co on about how pissed I am about this, and the fact that >>> theyre not offering testing to exposed employees, and that the WHO >>> recommendation is healthcare staff continue coming into work until they >>> show symptoms, and the fact that staff wear the same mask for 12 hours and >>> are scolded if they want to change them even though mask production is >>> sufficient to support anything that comes at healthcare now. but thats a >>> whole other rant. >>> > >>> > Moving forward we are treating the household as probably infected. >>> Sons baptism sunday is postponed. But trying to figure timelines and how to >>> handle exposure risks at my job. Trying to read up on all the current >>> politically motivated data is a joke. Best I can tell is transmissibility >>> minimum is 3 days, based on the newest harvard study. So assuming wife did >>> get it, we have 3 days from initial exposure for her to infect me and 3 >>> days after that that in transmissible, so working on a minimum 6 day >>> window until I have to shut down contact. >>> > >>> > I already notified everybody that If I come in for anything (primarily >>> working remote anyway) that ill be masked and gloved (lol, cloth masks from >>> her insurance provider) and wont be within 6 feet of anybody. >>> > >>> > After the 6 days until she is cleared, I wont be making in person >>> contact with anyone. If I enter the office, masked and gloved, sanitize >>> everything as i come out. We already have staff separation, with different >>> entrances for everyone. No one inside at the same time as me, ill try to >>> limit in office to after hours. Any equipment I touch will be masked and >>> gloved, will be placed in out non air conditioned garage (gets hot) for 24 >>> hours before any other staff touches it and will be sanitized. >>> > >>> > My site work (assuming no positive tests or symptoms in my house) will >>> be limited to me only and exterior work only, unmanned locations only, If >>> any at risk climbing is required of me, a second ground 911 man present, in >>> vehicle only. I I have to supervise any work, It will be from an isolated >>> location. Any site area I am in is not to be entered for 24 hours. >>> > >>> > Any symptoms or positive tests in my house and we go on full >>> quarantine. >>> > >>> > Ive made it abundantly clear that I think this whole thing is blown >>> out of proportion, the masks are nothing more than something to make people >>> feel like theyre doing something, even though theyre really not effective >>> and come fall theyll be massive bacterial breeding grounds. But there is >>> due diligence, and I think this plan of attack is pretty reasonable. It >>> mitigates any risk while allowing us to maintain productivity (assuming no >>> symptoms or positive tests). It feels like its something with minimal major >>> company impact and id easy to replicate given that my spouse works in >>> healthcare and this likely wont be the last high risk exposure. But I still >>> am not matt hoppes level. >>> > >>> > At this time, I havent had any "exposure" but there is a probable >>> looming exposure. I'm personally relieved that its probably in my house >>> now, and we have time to prepare for the inevitable. Im high risk because >>> of COPD, so theres that, but Ive already made right with that. Id rather >>> just get it over with, I had planned to get exposed a while back to get >>> past it but got that plan taken out from under me. >>> > >>> > We may "luck out" and this exposure was a near miss, but if >>> transmissibility is anywhere near what the politics say it is, this ones >>> all but certain. >>> > >>> > I think the 6 day window is a logical one to increase precautions >>> until we are past it. I think the non contact addresses any risk to >>> coworkers. I think the timeframe between shared surface/inventory contact >>> is reasonable and "science based". and after 14 days from the last exposure >>> (she was exposed over two consecutive 12 hour shifts) is a good window for >>> increased precautions to be in play, with a review and swap test at the >>> drive through site nearby. >>> > >>> > anybody but matt have any thoughts on this plan. I really think its >>> more than what is actually needed, but meets the abundance of caution >>> threshold >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lewis Bergman >> 325-439-0533 Cell >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > Lewis Bergman > 325-439-0533 Cell > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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