This guy is a definite initial false negative. It technically wasn't an
initial rule out, it was a confirmation test, that's why the doc
immediately ordered second test. Since my initial post there's been a lot
of policy activity at the facility. A lot of staff exposure occurred.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> Keep in mind that that could be a false positive as well there are a lot
> of both false negatives and false positives on the test. Unless they
> perform several more tests you will never know for sure.
>
> > On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > So, the wife has a good probability of infection. She works at a
> hospital as PCT (used to be CNA before PC). Patient came in with high
> likelihood of COVID, Isolation protocols were put in place, initial test
> came back negative, they pulled precautions. Still using basic surgical
> masks and gloves (says right on box that it doesnt stop COVID-19). Patient
> is on assistive ventilation, aerosolized secretions.
> > Doctor snaps and orders new test, of course it comes back positive.
> > So now multiple staff are exposed, the bad kind with aerosolized
> secretions, thats the healthcare exposure they warn about.
> > Of course today the hospital changes policy to mandatory eye protection
> (bit late knuckleheads)
> > inept
> >
> > I could co on about how pissed I am about this, and the fact that theyre
> not offering testing to exposed employees, and that the WHO recommendation
> is healthcare staff continue coming into work until they show symptoms, and
> the fact that staff wear the same mask for 12 hours and are scolded if they
> want to change them even though mask production is sufficient to support
> anything that comes at healthcare now. but thats a whole other rant.
> >
> > Moving forward we are treating the household as probably infected. Sons
> baptism sunday is postponed. But trying to figure timelines and how to
> handle exposure risks at my job. Trying to read up on all the current
> politically motivated data is a joke. Best I can tell is transmissibility
> minimum is 3 days, based on the newest harvard study. So assuming wife did
> get it, we have 3 days from initial exposure for her to infect me and 3
> days after that that in transmissible, so working on a minimum  6 day
> window until I have to shut down contact.
> >
> > I already notified everybody that If I come in for anything (primarily
> working remote anyway) that ill be masked and gloved (lol, cloth masks from
> her insurance provider) and wont be within 6 feet of anybody.
> >
> > After the 6 days until she is cleared, I wont be making in person
> contact with anyone. If I enter the office, masked and gloved, sanitize
> everything as i come out. We already have staff separation, with different
> entrances for everyone. No one inside at the same time as me, ill try to
> limit in office to after hours. Any equipment I touch will be masked and
> gloved, will be placed in out non air conditioned garage (gets hot) for 24
> hours before any other staff touches it and will be sanitized.
> >
> > My site work (assuming no positive tests or symptoms in my house) will
> be limited to me only and exterior work only, unmanned locations only, If
> any at risk climbing is required of me, a second ground 911 man present, in
> vehicle only. I I have to supervise any work, It will be from an isolated
> location. Any site area I am in is not to be entered for 24 hours.
> >
> > Any symptoms or positive tests in my house and we go on full quarantine.
> >
> > Ive made it abundantly clear that I think this whole thing is blown out
> of proportion, the masks are nothing more than something to make people
> feel like theyre doing something, even though theyre really not effective
> and come fall theyll be massive bacterial breeding grounds. But there is
> due diligence, and I think this plan of attack is pretty reasonable. It
> mitigates any risk while allowing us to maintain productivity (assuming no
> symptoms or positive tests). It feels like its something with minimal major
> company impact and id easy to replicate given that my spouse works in
> healthcare and this likely wont be the last high risk exposure. But I still
> am not matt hoppes level.
> >
> > At this time, I havent had any "exposure" but there is a probable
> looming exposure. I'm personally relieved that its probably in my house
> now, and we have time to prepare for the inevitable. Im high risk because
> of COPD, so theres that, but Ive already made right with that. Id rather
> just get it over with, I had planned to get exposed a while back to get
> past it but got that plan taken out from under me.
> >
> > We may "luck out" and this exposure was a near miss, but if
> transmissibility is anywhere near what the politics say it is, this ones
> all but certain.
> >
> > I think the 6 day window is a logical one to increase precautions until
> we are past it. I think the non contact addresses any risk to coworkers. I
> think the timeframe between shared surface/inventory contact is reasonable
> and "science based". and after 14 days from the last exposure (she was
> exposed over two consecutive 12 hour shifts) is a good window for increased
> precautions to be in play, with a review and swap test at the drive through
> site nearby.
> >
> > anybody but matt have any thoughts on this plan. I really think its more
> than what is actually needed, but meets the abundance of caution threshold
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