By the way, you have a garage with more than one level? Can you park cars on both? Is one like a big open room for grandkids? I am curious what the Utah Elite home trends are these days.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:25 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Nice. I see one on Ebay for $1400 but the rest start at $4000 and go up > to $100K. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2020 9:03 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: COVID Exposure and the real world > > A friend of mine just put this in his new house. I think you need a few. > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:55 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I actually do have what you could call a bunker. That is what my >> neighbors call it. Underground room off a tunnel that connects my house >> basement with my garage lower level. Like to find a fancy old bank vault >> door for it. I told my kids that when I croak they will find it stuffed >> floor to ceiling with toilet paper. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:45 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> If the weather stayed like it’s been this week, you could just put a >> comfy chair out on the lawn for her. >> >> >> >> My neighbors got some sort of tentlike gazebo thing. It’s probably just >> a gazebo, but I’ve wondered if it’s a quarantine hut in case one of them >> gets infected. >> >> >> >> Chuck could quarantine in his Vienna Sausage bunker. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2020 12:06 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* [SPAM] Re: [AFMUG] COVID Exposure and the real world >> >> >> >> You geeks are pretty smart. >> >> I was thinking, there's nothing stopping me from making her room and our >> upstairs bathroom negative pressure rooms with some 6 inch duct and duct >> fans in a plywood and styrofoam cutout in the window. If I put a hepa >> furnace filter on and a baffle it should keep any heat and bugs out of the >> house. May help keep our upstairs cooler blowing heat out and drawing cool >> air up from downstairs. Laying the duct to the floor should cause down >> draft and get any potential airborne bugs out of the air. >> >> I'm thinking if I run humidifiers it should give any covid creatures >> something weighty to attach to. >> >> My 15 year old opted to go stay with my neice because I gave him and the >> 12 year old girl the current known political statistics and let them define >> their own risk tolerance. If wife doesnt get symptomatic I'm letting him go >> through with his baptism Sunday since he wont be exposed when she would >> become contagious. But then again, church is the only place it spreads. >> >> The girl opted to stay >> >> The two littles dont have brain pan capacity to decide, since neither of >> them talk yet. >> >> The fat baby is still on boob juice and CDC and who political >> recommendations are to continue breast feeding but for mom to wear a >> mask... odd to see common sense prevail from either of those places. >> >> Probably making a poor choice somewhere in all this but when you're >> offered the option of a shit sandwich or a turd burger, the outcomes wont >> be all that different. >> >> >> >> Boss was pretty cool, we are on the same page as far as risk exposure and >> mitigation at work. This wont be her last exposure at work, though I hope >> it's the last high risk one. And if she does test positive, then we dont >> have to worry about them anymore. If I catch it and dont croak out then we >> are riding on the golden ticket. We are both smokers and apparently this >> particular disease that's a good thing since the vascular impact is >> mitigated by our constant constriction, no covid toe for us. >> >> >> >> Looked like a hypochondriac at the store stocking up on vitamins for 3 >> age ranges and normal cold/flu meds for 3 age ranges. Learning a ton about >> vitamin D, C, potassium and Zinc tolerances. This sucks because something >> in multivitamins cause me to get tinitus so the ringing will start here in >> a couple days. But at least we will walk away in the habit of adjuncting >> with vitamins. Probably something we should have been doing all along. >> >> >> >> I'm guessing if I werent treating this like any disaster mitigation at >> work I'd be freaking out like the wife. Hopefully I dont get to the point I >> have it handled and have time to sit and think. Might result in a bit of a >> brain bubble. >> >> >> >> Going to find out shortly just how accurate the "experts" are. Should be >> an interesting week. According to CNN, since we are a right leaning >> household, we are all going to die because of our guns. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:34 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This guy is a definite initial false negative. It technically wasn't an >> initial rule out, it was a confirmation test, that's why the doc >> immediately ordered second test. Since my initial post there's been a lot >> of policy activity at the facility. A lot of staff exposure occurred. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM Matt Hoppes < >> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >> >> Keep in mind that that could be a false positive as well there are a lot >> of both false negatives and false positives on the test. Unless they >> perform several more tests you will never know for sure. >> >> > On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > So, the wife has a good probability of infection. She works at a >> hospital as PCT (used to be CNA before PC). Patient came in with high >> likelihood of COVID, Isolation protocols were put in place, initial test >> came back negative, they pulled precautions. Still using basic surgical >> masks and gloves (says right on box that it doesnt stop COVID-19). Patient >> is on assistive ventilation, aerosolized secretions. >> > Doctor snaps and orders new test, of course it comes back positive. >> > So now multiple staff are exposed, the bad kind with aerosolized >> secretions, thats the healthcare exposure they warn about. >> > Of course today the hospital changes policy to mandatory eye protection >> (bit late knuckleheads) >> > inept >> > >> > I could co on about how pissed I am about this, and the fact that >> theyre not offering testing to exposed employees, and that the WHO >> recommendation is healthcare staff continue coming into work until they >> show symptoms, and the fact that staff wear the same mask for 12 hours and >> are scolded if they want to change them even though mask production is >> sufficient to support anything that comes at healthcare now. but thats a >> whole other rant. >> > >> > Moving forward we are treating the household as probably infected. Sons >> baptism sunday is postponed. But trying to figure timelines and how to >> handle exposure risks at my job. Trying to read up on all the current >> politically motivated data is a joke. Best I can tell is transmissibility >> minimum is 3 days, based on the newest harvard study. So assuming wife did >> get it, we have 3 days from initial exposure for her to infect me and 3 >> days after that that in transmissible, so working on a minimum 6 day >> window until I have to shut down contact. >> > >> > I already notified everybody that If I come in for anything (primarily >> working remote anyway) that ill be masked and gloved (lol, cloth masks from >> her insurance provider) and wont be within 6 feet of anybody. >> > >> > After the 6 days until she is cleared, I wont be making in person >> contact with anyone. If I enter the office, masked and gloved, sanitize >> everything as i come out. We already have staff separation, with different >> entrances for everyone. No one inside at the same time as me, ill try to >> limit in office to after hours. Any equipment I touch will be masked and >> gloved, will be placed in out non air conditioned garage (gets hot) for 24 >> hours before any other staff touches it and will be sanitized. >> > >> > My site work (assuming no positive tests or symptoms in my house) will >> be limited to me only and exterior work only, unmanned locations only, If >> any at risk climbing is required of me, a second ground 911 man present, in >> vehicle only. I I have to supervise any work, It will be from an isolated >> location. Any site area I am in is not to be entered for 24 hours. >> > >> > Any symptoms or positive tests in my house and we go on full quarantine. >> > >> > Ive made it abundantly clear that I think this whole thing is blown out >> of proportion, the masks are nothing more than something to make people >> feel like theyre doing something, even though theyre really not effective >> and come fall theyll be massive bacterial breeding grounds. But there is >> due diligence, and I think this plan of attack is pretty reasonable. It >> mitigates any risk while allowing us to maintain productivity (assuming no >> symptoms or positive tests). It feels like its something with minimal major >> company impact and id easy to replicate given that my spouse works in >> healthcare and this likely wont be the last high risk exposure. But I still >> am not matt hoppes level. >> > >> > At this time, I havent had any "exposure" but there is a probable >> looming exposure. I'm personally relieved that its probably in my house >> now, and we have time to prepare for the inevitable. Im high risk because >> of COPD, so theres that, but Ive already made right with that. Id rather >> just get it over with, I had planned to get exposed a while back to get >> past it but got that plan taken out from under me. >> > >> > We may "luck out" and this exposure was a near miss, but if >> transmissibility is anywhere near what the politics say it is, this ones >> all but certain. >> > >> > I think the 6 day window is a logical one to increase precautions until >> we are past it. I think the non contact addresses any risk to coworkers. I >> think the timeframe between shared surface/inventory contact is reasonable >> and "science based". and after 14 days from the last exposure (she was >> exposed over two consecutive 12 hour shifts) is a good window for increased >> precautions to be in play, with a review and swap test at the drive through >> site nearby. >> > >> > anybody but matt have any thoughts on this plan. 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