I actually do have what you could call a bunker.  That is what my neighbors 
call it.  Underground room off a tunnel that connects my house basement with my 
garage lower level.  Like to find a fancy old bank vault door for it.  I told 
my kids that when I croak they will find it stuffed floor to ceiling with 
toilet paper.  

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> On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:45 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If the weather stayed like it’s been this week, you could just put a comfy 
> chair out on the lawn for her.
>  
> My neighbors got some sort of tentlike gazebo thing.  It’s probably just a 
> gazebo, but I’ve wondered if it’s a quarantine hut in case one of them gets 
> infected.
>  
> Chuck could quarantine in his Vienna Sausage bunker.
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:06 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [AFMUG] COVID Exposure and the real world
>  
> You geeks are pretty smart.
> I was thinking, there's nothing stopping me from making her room and our 
> upstairs bathroom negative pressure rooms with some 6 inch duct and duct fans 
> in a plywood and styrofoam cutout in the window. If I put a hepa furnace 
> filter on and a baffle it should keep any heat and bugs out of the house. May 
> help keep our upstairs cooler blowing heat out and drawing cool air up from 
> downstairs. Laying the duct to the floor should cause down draft and get any 
> potential airborne bugs out of the air.
> I'm thinking if I run humidifiers it should give any covid creatures 
> something weighty to attach to.
> My 15 year old opted to go stay with my neice because I gave him and the 12 
> year old girl the current known political statistics and let them define 
> their own risk tolerance. If wife doesnt get symptomatic I'm letting him go 
> through with his baptism Sunday since he wont be exposed when she would 
> become contagious. But then again, church is the only place it spreads.
> The girl opted to stay
>  The two littles dont have brain pan capacity to decide, since neither of 
> them talk yet.
> The fat baby is still on boob juice and CDC and who political recommendations 
> are to continue breast feeding but for mom to wear a mask... odd to see 
> common sense prevail from either of those places.
> Probably making a poor choice somewhere in all this but when you're offered 
> the option of a shit sandwich or a turd burger, the outcomes wont be all that 
> different.
>  
> Boss was pretty cool, we are on the same page as far as risk exposure and 
> mitigation at work. This wont be her last exposure at work, though I hope 
> it's the last high risk one. And if she does test positive, then we dont have 
> to worry about them anymore. If I catch it and dont croak out then we are 
> riding on the golden ticket. We are both smokers and apparently this 
> particular disease that's a good thing since the vascular impact is mitigated 
> by our constant constriction, no covid toe for us.
>  
> Looked like a hypochondriac at the store stocking up on vitamins for 3 age 
> ranges and normal cold/flu meds for 3 age ranges. Learning a ton about 
> vitamin D, C, potassium and Zinc tolerances. This sucks because something in 
> multivitamins cause me to get tinitus so the ringing will start here in a 
> couple days. But at least we will walk away in the habit of adjuncting with 
> vitamins. Probably something we should have been doing all along.
>  
> I'm guessing if I werent treating this like any disaster mitigation at work 
> I'd be freaking out like the wife. Hopefully I dont get to the point I have 
> it handled and have time to sit and think. Might result in a bit of a brain 
> bubble.
>  
> Going to find out shortly just how accurate the "experts" are. Should be an 
> interesting week. According to CNN, since we are a right leaning household, 
> we are all going to die because of our guns.
>  
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:34 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This guy is a definite initial false negative. It technically wasn't an 
> initial rule out, it was a confirmation test, that's why the doc immediately 
> ordered second test. Since my initial post there's been a lot of policy 
> activity at the facility. A lot of staff exposure occurred.
>  
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
> Keep in mind that that could be a false positive as well there are a lot of 
> both false negatives and false positives on the test. Unless they perform 
> several more tests you will never know for sure.
> 
> > On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > So, the wife has a good probability of infection. She works at a hospital 
> > as PCT (used to be CNA before PC). Patient came in with high likelihood of 
> > COVID, Isolation protocols were put in place, initial test came back 
> > negative, they pulled precautions. Still using basic surgical masks and 
> > gloves (says right on box that it doesnt stop COVID-19). Patient is on 
> > assistive ventilation, aerosolized secretions.
> > Doctor snaps and orders new test, of course it comes back positive.
> > So now multiple staff are exposed, the bad kind with aerosolized 
> > secretions, thats the healthcare exposure they warn about.
> > Of course today the hospital changes policy to mandatory eye protection 
> > (bit late knuckleheads)
> > inept
> > 
> > I could co on about how pissed I am about this, and the fact that theyre 
> > not offering testing to exposed employees, and that the WHO recommendation 
> > is healthcare staff continue coming into work until they show symptoms, and 
> > the fact that staff wear the same mask for 12 hours and are scolded if they 
> > want to change them even though mask production is sufficient to support 
> > anything that comes at healthcare now. but thats a whole other rant.
> > 
> > Moving forward we are treating the household as probably infected. Sons 
> > baptism sunday is postponed. But trying to figure timelines and how to 
> > handle exposure risks at my job. Trying to read up on all the current 
> > politically motivated data is a joke. Best I can tell is transmissibility 
> > minimum is 3 days, based on the newest harvard study. So assuming wife did 
> > get it, we have 3 days from initial exposure for her to infect me and 3 
> > days after that that in transmissible, so working on a minimum  6 day 
> > window until I have to shut down contact.
> > 
> > I already notified everybody that If I come in for anything (primarily 
> > working remote anyway) that ill be masked and gloved (lol, cloth masks from 
> > her insurance provider) and wont be within 6 feet of anybody.
> > 
> > After the 6 days until she is cleared, I wont be making in person contact 
> > with anyone. If I enter the office, masked and gloved, sanitize everything 
> > as i come out. We already have staff separation, with different entrances 
> > for everyone. No one inside at the same time as me, ill try to limit in 
> > office to after hours. Any equipment I touch will be masked and gloved, 
> > will be placed in out non air conditioned garage (gets hot) for 24 hours 
> > before any other staff touches it and will be sanitized.
> > 
> > My site work (assuming no positive tests or symptoms in my house) will be 
> > limited to me only and exterior work only, unmanned locations only, If any 
> > at risk climbing is required of me, a second ground 911 man present, in 
> > vehicle only. I I have to supervise any work, It will be from an isolated 
> > location. Any site area I am in is not to be entered for 24 hours.
> > 
> > Any symptoms or positive tests in my house and we go on full quarantine.
> > 
> > Ive made it abundantly clear that I think this whole thing is blown out of 
> > proportion, the masks are nothing more than something to make people feel 
> > like theyre doing something, even though theyre really not effective and 
> > come fall theyll be massive bacterial breeding grounds. But there is due 
> > diligence, and I think this plan of attack is pretty reasonable. It 
> > mitigates any risk while allowing us to maintain productivity (assuming no 
> > symptoms or positive tests). It feels like its something with minimal major 
> > company impact and id easy to replicate given that my spouse works in 
> > healthcare and this likely wont be the last high risk exposure. But I still 
> > am not matt hoppes level.
> > 
> > At this time, I havent had any "exposure" but there is a probable looming 
> > exposure. I'm personally relieved that its probably in my house now, and we 
> > have time to prepare for the inevitable. Im high risk because of COPD, so 
> > theres that, but Ive already made right with that. Id rather just get it 
> > over with, I had planned to get exposed a while back to get past it but got 
> > that plan taken out from under me.
> > 
> > We may "luck out" and this exposure was a near miss, but if 
> > transmissibility is anywhere near what the politics say it is, this ones 
> > all but certain. 
> > 
> > I think the 6 day window is a logical one to increase precautions until we 
> > are past it. I think the non contact addresses any risk to coworkers. I 
> > think the timeframe between shared surface/inventory contact is reasonable 
> > and "science based". and after 14 days from the last exposure (she was 
> > exposed over two consecutive 12 hour shifts) is a good window for increased 
> > precautions to be in play, with a review and swap test at the drive through 
> > site nearby.
> > 
> > anybody but matt have any thoughts on this plan. I really think its more 
> > than what is actually needed, but meets the abundance of caution threshold
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