Nice. I see one on Ebay for $1400 but the rest start at $4000 and go up to
$100K.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 9:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: COVID Exposure and the real world
A friend of mine just put this in his new house. I think you need a few.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:55 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I actually do have what you could call a bunker. That is what my neighbors
call it. Underground room off a tunnel that connects my house basement with my
garage lower level. Like to find a fancy old bank vault door for it. I told
my kids that when I croak they will find it stuffed floor to ceiling with
toilet paper.
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On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:45 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
If the weather stayed like it’s been this week, you could just put a comfy
chair out on the lawn for her.
My neighbors got some sort of tentlike gazebo thing. It’s probably just a
gazebo, but I’ve wondered if it’s a quarantine hut in case one of them gets
infected.
Chuck could quarantine in his Vienna Sausage bunker.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [AFMUG] COVID Exposure and the real world
You geeks are pretty smart.
I was thinking, there's nothing stopping me from making her room and our
upstairs bathroom negative pressure rooms with some 6 inch duct and duct fans
in a plywood and styrofoam cutout in the window. If I put a hepa furnace filter
on and a baffle it should keep any heat and bugs out of the house. May help
keep our upstairs cooler blowing heat out and drawing cool air up from
downstairs. Laying the duct to the floor should cause down draft and get any
potential airborne bugs out of the air.
I'm thinking if I run humidifiers it should give any covid creatures
something weighty to attach to.
My 15 year old opted to go stay with my neice because I gave him and the 12
year old girl the current known political statistics and let them define their
own risk tolerance. If wife doesnt get symptomatic I'm letting him go through
with his baptism Sunday since he wont be exposed when she would become
contagious. But then again, church is the only place it spreads.
The girl opted to stay
The two littles dont have brain pan capacity to decide, since neither of
them talk yet.
The fat baby is still on boob juice and CDC and who political
recommendations are to continue breast feeding but for mom to wear a mask...
odd to see common sense prevail from either of those places.
Probably making a poor choice somewhere in all this but when you're offered
the option of a shit sandwich or a turd burger, the outcomes wont be all that
different.
Boss was pretty cool, we are on the same page as far as risk exposure and
mitigation at work. This wont be her last exposure at work, though I hope it's
the last high risk one. And if she does test positive, then we dont have to
worry about them anymore. If I catch it and dont croak out then we are riding
on the golden ticket. We are both smokers and apparently this particular
disease that's a good thing since the vascular impact is mitigated by our
constant constriction, no covid toe for us.
Looked like a hypochondriac at the store stocking up on vitamins for 3 age
ranges and normal cold/flu meds for 3 age ranges. Learning a ton about vitamin
D, C, potassium and Zinc tolerances. This sucks because something in
multivitamins cause me to get tinitus so the ringing will start here in a
couple days. But at least we will walk away in the habit of adjuncting with
vitamins. Probably something we should have been doing all along.
I'm guessing if I werent treating this like any disaster mitigation at work
I'd be freaking out like the wife. Hopefully I dont get to the point I have it
handled and have time to sit and think. Might result in a bit of a brain bubble.
Going to find out shortly just how accurate the "experts" are. Should be an
interesting week. According to CNN, since we are a right leaning household, we
are all going to die because of our guns.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 11:34 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
This guy is a definite initial false negative. It technically wasn't an
initial rule out, it was a confirmation test, that's why the doc immediately
ordered second test. Since my initial post there's been a lot of policy
activity at the facility. A lot of staff exposure occurred.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 4:56 PM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Keep in mind that that could be a false positive as well there are a
lot of both false negatives and false positives on the test. Unless they
perform several more tests you will never know for sure.
> On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> So, the wife has a good probability of infection. She works at a
hospital as PCT (used to be CNA before PC). Patient came in with high
likelihood of COVID, Isolation protocols were put in place, initial test came
back negative, they pulled precautions. Still using basic surgical masks and
gloves (says right on box that it doesnt stop COVID-19). Patient is on
assistive ventilation, aerosolized secretions.
> Doctor snaps and orders new test, of course it comes back positive.
> So now multiple staff are exposed, the bad kind with aerosolized
secretions, thats the healthcare exposure they warn about.
> Of course today the hospital changes policy to mandatory eye
protection (bit late knuckleheads)
> inept
>
> I could co on about how pissed I am about this, and the fact that
theyre not offering testing to exposed employees, and that the WHO
recommendation is healthcare staff continue coming into work until they show
symptoms, and the fact that staff wear the same mask for 12 hours and are
scolded if they want to change them even though mask production is sufficient
to support anything that comes at healthcare now. but thats a whole other rant.
>
> Moving forward we are treating the household as probably infected.
Sons baptism sunday is postponed. But trying to figure timelines and how to
handle exposure risks at my job. Trying to read up on all the current
politically motivated data is a joke. Best I can tell is transmissibility
minimum is 3 days, based on the newest harvard study. So assuming wife did get
it, we have 3 days from initial exposure for her to infect me and 3 days after
that that in transmissible, so working on a minimum 6 day window until I have
to shut down contact.
>
> I already notified everybody that If I come in for anything
(primarily working remote anyway) that ill be masked and gloved (lol, cloth
masks from her insurance provider) and wont be within 6 feet of anybody.
>
> After the 6 days until she is cleared, I wont be making in person
contact with anyone. If I enter the office, masked and gloved, sanitize
everything as i come out. We already have staff separation, with different
entrances for everyone. No one inside at the same time as me, ill try to limit
in office to after hours. Any equipment I touch will be masked and gloved, will
be placed in out non air conditioned garage (gets hot) for 24 hours before any
other staff touches it and will be sanitized.
>
> My site work (assuming no positive tests or symptoms in my house)
will be limited to me only and exterior work only, unmanned locations only, If
any at risk climbing is required of me, a second ground 911 man present, in
vehicle only. I I have to supervise any work, It will be from an isolated
location. Any site area I am in is not to be entered for 24 hours.
>
> Any symptoms or positive tests in my house and we go on full
quarantine.
>
> Ive made it abundantly clear that I think this whole thing is blown
out of proportion, the masks are nothing more than something to make people
feel like theyre doing something, even though theyre really not effective and
come fall theyll be massive bacterial breeding grounds. But there is due
diligence, and I think this plan of attack is pretty reasonable. It mitigates
any risk while allowing us to maintain productivity (assuming no symptoms or
positive tests). It feels like its something with minimal major company impact
and id easy to replicate given that my spouse works in healthcare and this
likely wont be the last high risk exposure. But I still am not matt hoppes
level.
>
> At this time, I havent had any "exposure" but there is a probable
looming exposure. I'm personally relieved that its probably in my house now,
and we have time to prepare for the inevitable. Im high risk because of COPD,
so theres that, but Ive already made right with that. Id rather just get it
over with, I had planned to get exposed a while back to get past it but got
that plan taken out from under me.
>
> We may "luck out" and this exposure was a near miss, but if
transmissibility is anywhere near what the politics say it is, this ones all
but certain.
>
> I think the 6 day window is a logical one to increase precautions
until we are past it. I think the non contact addresses any risk to coworkers.
I think the timeframe between shared surface/inventory contact is reasonable
and "science based". and after 14 days from the last exposure (she was exposed
over two consecutive 12 hour shifts) is a good window for increased precautions
to be in play, with a review and swap test at the drive through site nearby.
>
> anybody but matt have any thoughts on this plan. I really think its
more than what is actually needed, but meets the abundance of caution threshold
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