That is true, did most of my college while serving in Europe.
My economics professor was Rebecca Keynes, wasn't
until like my fourth or fifth class that I found out her
grandfather was John Keynes (Keynesian Theory).

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Fri June 12 2020 11:11, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Professors are a mixed lot.  I took a course from this guy, who apparently
> is still teaching although he would be well into his 80’s now.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz
>
>
>
> I had no idea at the time he was a Holocaust denier.  I’ve never understood
> those people – my dad was in the Army in WWII and participated in
> liberating some concentration camps.  I mean, it’s a freakin’ fact, how can
> you deny facts.  Anyway, my recollection of Professor Butz was I had a
> friend who kept writing the name as “Prof. Butts” on his assignments and
> tests.  We kept telling him it was spelled Butz but he thought we were
> joking.  Brings new meaning to the expression “butt of a joke”.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:54 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>
>
>
> Were you in the same class as I was?   We had the same professor, I think..
>  Drove me off the deep end...  Specially when he blocked the equations with
> his body as he erased!!   But we had this one other assoc-prof..   Name of
> Jim Clark..  He was wild, specially when he went into game theory and
> betting systems..  Yep that Clark.   Worked for him 20 years later...
>
> On 6/12/20 8:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Oh man. I was doing great in calculus until we got to differential
> equations. I blame the professor. Harry Blackman. What a terrible
> professor! He lectured with his back to the class and wrote on the
> blackboard; chalk in his outstretched right hand, and eraser in his
> outstretched left hand. He would write equations as he droned, and erased
> the information in the space between his hands. What a horrible experience
> that was!
>
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 6/12/2020 8:22 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
> See, I only cared about the digital stuff.   Though power, motors, etc.
> were pretty cool as well.   Grades were good in those classes.
>
>
>
> Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a plant out
> of a microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he suggested.   But I want
> to do Microcontrollers.   Yep, first job was building industrial control
> systems with PLC’s.   I’m guessing I was a completely cocky bastard as a 21
> year old.   Perhaps someday I’ll grow out of that.   Or not.
>
>
>
> Heh, calculus.   My last all night study session managed to turn a
> perfectly good B+ in differential equations into a D.   Walked in to that
> exam and drew a complete blank.  Should have just slept, probably would
> have aced it.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Those were the ONLY classes I cared about.  Got A’s in all things antenna
> and RF.
>
> Got A’s in most of the linear stuff.
>
>
>
> Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone....  (those
> guys are called bit freaks)
>
> Got a C- in integral calculus.
>
>
>
> From: Mark Radabaugh
>
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:42 AM
>
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>
>
>
> Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-)   D’s get
> degrees.   I’m never going to use this shit.   Take the EIT / PE exam?  
> Why the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer.
>
>
>
> Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with microwaves
> and antenna systems every day.
>
>
>
> Ah, to know then what I know now.   Just don’t make me do all this shit
> over again.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the aluminum
> box into an antenna.
>
>
>
> Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college.  And I have a fear
> of heights.  So of course I end up running a WISP.  But turning a Faraday
> cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
> Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:07 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>
>
>
> I like your solution actually.   Should work out well.   Hardest part with
> trailers is getting through the aluminum box.   Putting AP’s close will
> help a lot.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping.
>
> I'm proposing both a wireless and fiber solution.  I'm sure they'll pick
> WiFi because it'll be cheaper, but I wanted to put all the cards on the
> table.
>
> As far as why I'm bothering to propose fiber:
>
> 1) If there's fiber to the power pedestal, and each ped (or every other
> ped) has it's own little router with it's own SSID and key, then there's a
> security benefit vs having everybody in the park be able to sniff traffic
> from each other's devices.
>
> 2) We could track any illegal/bad/weird activity to a specific RV site (or
> at least to the proximity of one).
>
> 3) The changing positions and occupancy of RV sites won't affect anybody's
> WiFi because their WiFi will be right next to them no matter what.  Neither
> will the growth of trees hurt them.
>
> 4) No capacity issue in the park (and the feed TO the park can of course
> always be upgraded).
>
> 5) Infinitely upgrade-able.
>
> 6) We have all the equipment and personnel and we want to use them. 
> There's an indefinite amount of work for them expanding and improving our
> own network, but if they do it for the campground we can bill them out.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/2020 5:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> Why are you doing fiber?
>
>
>
> We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream over the
> Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed.
>
>
>
> It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly to the
> sectors that cover several RV campers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and that's part of
> why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal.  I just thought it would be nice
> to have the option to plug in a cable.
>
> I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of the RV power
> ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/.
> <http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/>
>
>
> Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might give me a
> place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be two keystone jacks
> in it.  My two reasons for suggesting this approach are that each RV gets
> their own WiFi instead of sharing it with everybody around them, and if
> there was ever a law enforcement issue we could track the usage to a
> particular site rather than just "somewhere in the park".
>
>
>
> On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>
> As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and
> doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for.   Don't even
> carry and ethernet cable...
>
> On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>
>
>
> If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site?
>
> I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a post next to
> their power and water hookups.  I'd want the campers to be able to plug
> Ethernet in at the box if they have the wherewithal to do so.  And if they
> don't then they have their own private WiFi right outside their RV.
>
> ....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this together, but
> I'm betting someone must have made a product for this already.
>
>
>
>
>
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