Were you in the same class as I was? We had the same professor, I
think.. Drove me off the deep end... Specially when he blocked the
equations with his body as he erased!! But we had this one other
assoc-prof.. Name of Jim Clark.. He was wild, specially when he went
into game theory and betting systems.. Yep that Clark. Worked for him
20 years later...
On 6/12/20 8:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Oh man. I was doing great in calculus until we got to differential
equations. I blame the professor. Harry Blackman. What a terrible
professor! He lectured with his back to the class and wrote on the
blackboard; chalk in his outstretched right hand, and eraser in his
outstretched left hand. He would write equations as he droned, and
erased the information in the space between his hands. What a horrible
experience that was!
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/12/2020 8:22 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
See, I only cared about the digital stuff. Though power, motors,
etc. were pretty cool as well. Grades were good in those classes.
Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a
plant out of a microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he
suggested. But I want to do Microcontrollers. Yep, first job was
building industrial control systems with PLC’s. I’m guessing I was
a completely cocky bastard as a 21 year old. Perhaps someday I’ll
grow out of that. Or not.
Heh, calculus. My last all night study session managed to turn a
perfectly good B+ in differential equations into a D. Walked in to
that exam and drew a complete blank. Should have just slept,
probably would have aced it.
Mark
On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Those were the ONLY classes I cared about. Got A’s in all things
antenna and RF.
Got A’s in most of the linear stuff.
Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone....
(those guys are called bit freaks)
Got a C- in integral calculus.
*From:* Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-)
D’s get degrees. I’m never going to use this shit. Take the EIT
/ PE exam? Why the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer.
Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with
microwaves and antenna systems every day.
Ah, to know then what I know now. Just don’t make me do all this
shit over again.
Mark
On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the
aluminum box into an antenna.
Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college. And I have
a fear of heights. So of course I end up running a WISP. But
turning a Faraday cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>*On Behalf Of*Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:*Friday, June 12, 2020 9:07 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
I like your solution actually. Should work out well. Hardest
part with trailers is getting through the aluminum box. Putting
AP’s close will help a lot.
Mark
On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping.
I'm proposing both a wireless and fiber solution. I'm sure
they'll pick WiFi because it'll be cheaper, but I wanted to put
all the cards on the table.
As far as why I'm bothering to propose fiber:
1) If there's fiber to the power pedestal, and each ped (or every
other ped) has it's own little router with it's own SSID and key,
then there's a security benefit vs having everybody in the park be
able to sniff traffic from each other's devices.
2) We could track any illegal/bad/weird activity to a specific RV
site (or at least to the proximity of one).
3) The changing positions and occupancy of RV sites won't affect
anybody's WiFi because their WiFi will be right next to them no
matter what. Neither will the growth of trees hurt them.
4) No capacity issue in the park (and the feed TO the park can of
course always be upgraded).
5) Infinitely upgrade-able.
6) We have all the equipment and personnel and we want to use
them. There's an indefinite amount of work for them expanding and
improving our own network, but if they do it for the campground we
can bill them out.
-Adam
On 6/11/2020 5:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Why are you doing fiber?
We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream
over the Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed.
It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly
to the sectors that cover several RV campers.
On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam
Moffettmailto:dmmoffett@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and
that's part of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal. I just
thought it would be nice to have the option to plug in a cable.
I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of
the RV power
ped.http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/.
<http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/>
Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might
give me a place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be
two keystone jacks in it. My two reasons for suggesting this
approach are that each RV gets their own WiFi instead of sharing
it with everybody around them, and if there was ever a law
enforcement issue we could track the usage to a particular site
rather than just "somewhere in the park".
On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi
connections and doing a hardwire would be something that we
_never_ plan for. Don't even carry and ethernet cable...
On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site?
I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a
post next to their power and water hookups. I'd want the
campers to be able to plug Ethernet in at the box if they have
the wherewithal to do so. And if they don't then they have
their own private WiFi right outside their RV.
....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this
together, but I'm betting someone must have made a product for
this already.
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