"1 is pretty well settled on globally in the second" I agree with Steve on something!!!
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:07 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alex Jones is amazing. Hes probably the dumbest man on the planet and is > able to get millions of people to follow him even though hes been > deplatformed everywhere. I hate those punchanazi guys, because half the > people they punch arent nazis, but i could support the punch alex jones > crowd > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> So it took 6 weeks for us to talk about letting granny die. And >> apparently to start planning cannibalism: >> >> >> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xzej/increasingly-desperate-alex-jones-says-he-will-kill-and-eat-his-neighbors >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:10 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? >> >> >> >> At some point, humans are going to have to accept the fact the mother >> nature will always win. Its not PC, but fact of the matter is we keep >> people alive that otherwise wouldnt have been in the gene pool, and then >> they breed. Eugenics in its basic form is correct. We dont simply have more >> diabetics because we eat like garbage, we have more diabetics because >> diabetics dont die like mother nature intended and then they breed and then >> eat like garbage. >> >> It could be that this virus kills those with comorbidity by design, >> whether by natures selection or by some scientists hand, at this point it >> doesnt really matter, its like buying a toilet after you already pooped on >> the floor. >> >> >> >> also, I have a sore throat, I had a good run guys, thanks for all the >> good times >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> It seems to me, that what really matters is how many deaths there have >> been in excess of what the average was for the same period in previous >> years (yes, I know that's what they're talking about in the NYT article, >> but I'm too lazy to read it all and see how much detail they go into). We >> can argue all day about whether somebody that died of a heart attack died >> because they had covid19 or whether they just had an unrelated heart attack >> and just happened to have a mild case of covid, and whether they should be >> counted, but in the end, it doesn't really matter. If say, an average of >> 10,000 people died in X state in April for the past 5 years, and this year >> 15,000 died, then we can pretty safely blame 5,000 of those deaths on >> covid. It doesn't really matter if 6,000 people actually died of covid, but >> 1000 of them would've died of flu anyway, and it just happened to be covid >> that finished them off instead, or if 500 got so sick of sitting in front >> of the tv that they jumped off a bridge and were never infected. >> >> >> >> I don't think we'll ever have particularly accurate numbers of how many >> people directly died of the infection (other than maybe in Utah), but in a >> few months we should have pretty accurate numbers of how many excess deaths >> there were. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:22 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> Those who suspect an “agenda” will immediately dispute these graphs >> because the source is NYT which they will perceive as biased. But if you >> read the article, they go out of their way to point out possible errors in >> the data, as well as other influences like overloaded healthcare system led >> to people dying of other causes, but also less deaths due to traffic and >> violence. And the data as Bill says is from other sources, the paper >> didn’t make them up to suit a political agenda or bias. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html >> >> >> >> In other countries like Italy, no doubt the deaths were undercounted >> because the system was overwhelmed. Even in NYC, the morgues and >> crematories are overloaded, they are stuffing bodies in refrigerated semis, >> you can’t possibly claim these are just the normal deaths being mislabeled >> as Covid related to suit an agenda. Then you have all the prison and >> nursing home deaths. OK, sure, elderly people croak all the time, it’s a >> hoax. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:02 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? >> >> >> >> The numbers posted on various web sites are neither government sourced or >> corporate sourced. Hospitals, clinics, and morgues are supplying the >> numbers. There is a level of uncertainty because of different criteria. >> That is true for the US cases, but probably not for other countries. For >> example, the numbers coming from China (and several other countries) are by >> design government based. But to brush them all off as "government or >> corporations" is being naive at least. >> >> I would not say that "most" patients have pre-existing conditions. Maybe >> a high percentage, but it does not explain why such a large number of >> otherwise healthy people are being infected the way they are. At some >> point, we will figure out that there is a genetic or environmental factor >> that we just do not understand yet. >> >> I (for one) do not believe the numbers are 100% accurate, but I also do >> not believe the numbers are 100% fictitious either. Where you cut off is >> probably a personal thing. >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 5/5/2020 6:55 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >> >> You guys work with statistics much? You think the numbers are accurate? >> At what point have you ever seen government or corporations represent 100% >> accurate numbers? >> >> >> >> I'll let you do your own homework. But I've seen hundreds of reports >> from all over the place of deaths of natural causes being classified as >> covid deaths. Since most patients have existing conditions and many were >> already dying and died of those conditions (heart attack, cancer etc) are >> being attributed to covid. Some people have estimated that upward of 20% >> misrepresented. So as long as there is 1 case that is questionable - the >> statistics are not accurate. >> >> >> >> -- >> Steven Kenney >> Network Operations Manager >> WaveDirect Telecommunications >> http://www.wavedirect.net >> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, May 4, 2020 2:04:16 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? >> >> >> >> The numbers are not "completely" false, but it's the best we can do when >> we don't actually test all the suspected infections. It also (probably) >> missed a whole lot of the early deaths, as they were miss-classified. If >> you think under-ground near-do-wells are planted in all the hospitals >> around the country and are coordinating false numbers on all the rest of >> us, then I have a tin hat that might fit real well. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 5/4/2020 10:48 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: >> >> Numbers are completely false. Even with that taken into regard it still >> is just as lethal as the regular flu. While it is way more harsh on people >> if they get it, most people have underlying conditions, or didn't know they >> had them, or didn't take it serious when they got it. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately politicians never waste a crisis to further their agenda. >> >> >> >> -- >> Steven Kenney >> Network Operations Manager >> WaveDirect Telecommunications >> http://www.wavedirect.net >> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, May 4, 2020 12:30:08 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Is this good? >> >> >> >> [image: image] >> >> >> >> Every time I get my hopes up this curve breaks my heart... Let’s hope we >> are on the tail of a normal curve. >> >> 6 days in a row decline. 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