when i was a kid, my sisters friends would definitely agree about that. i
liked to do helicopter fly bys
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:54 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Yeah, he is our own private Lewis CK.
>
> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 11:13 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
> Reacting with outrage to something Steve says is why he says it. Don’t
> take him, or yourself too seriously. Or me either for that matter.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's extremist to accuse me and people like me of wanting a tragic
> outcome, ie to want people to suffer and die. Please keep your extremist
> right wing BS off this list.
>
> "If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current
> executive" <-- This BS has no place on this list.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:51 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it
>> would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl.
>> how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like
>> chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in
>> nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting
>> people in a quarantine have the choice?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS! It is insulting and
>>> pretty disgusting. Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list.
>>> It doesn't belong here.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if
>>>> this is as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having
>>>> people going door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea.
>>>>
>>>> If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the
>>>> current executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of
>>>> rep seats since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what
>>>> plagues decimate.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brilliant!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe send them via cruise ship.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We could just send anyone with this bug to China. Problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I heard the
>>>>> term “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was saying US
>>>>> healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim
>>>>> for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge capacity.
>>>>> Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas
>>>>> where outbreaks happen. The Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular
>>>>> approach to quickly creating a field hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time
>>>>> for a bug out!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the
>>>>> first page of results were mostly studies after Katrina. A hurricane is
>>>>> worse because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating
>>>>> capacity. With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is
>>>>> infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so they get
>>>>> quarantined. This appears to be happening with that nursing home in
>>>>> Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are now quarantined as a precaution
>>>>> because they had been to that facility.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have
>>>>> enough patients
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from
>>>>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!
>>>>>
>>>>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for tonight’s
>>>>> dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes. Probably the only
>>>>> thing in their pantry is cigarettes and wine. But at least if these are
>>>>> the end times, they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end.
>>>>> Who
>>>>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation. Some
>>>>> part of you is rooting for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a hypothesis.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared.
>>>>> most of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most
>>>>> capable of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes
>>>>> boogity, we have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i
>>>>> never
>>>>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a
>>>>> lot like devout christians worying about end times and rapture.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys. He is very
>>>>> alt right too. He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at
>>>>> the same place at the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us
>>>>> all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>>>>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On a side note. Thanks for letting me rant and rave here. Can't do
>>>>> it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.
>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>> I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy. So, Thank You.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.myakka.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post
>>>>> after all), but sounds kind of science-y.
>>>>>
>>>>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about
>>>>> six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported
>>>>> this
>>>>> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through
>>>>> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with
>>>>> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing. I have not seen news
>>>>> reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people
>>>>> buying up all the Lysol and Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump
>>>>> bottles
>>>>> of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full. News reports have
>>>>> said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I
>>>>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as
>>>>> usual). Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks
>>>>> from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh
>>>>> Meats.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
>>>>> Technologies
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>>
>>>>> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. It is already in the US
>>>>> 2. More people in the US will get it
>>>>> 3. More people in the US will die.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point. We don't
>>>>> know anything about this virus. Most everything I hear or read about this
>>>>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE". But if
>>>>> you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
>>>>> experts". The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
>>>>> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
>>>>> the most likely scenario. We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.
>>>>> We
>>>>> don't know how it reacts to UV light. We don't know how it will do in
>>>>> warm/humid conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), This virus has been in
>>>>> the states before the first reported case. People have had it and
>>>>> recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to
>>>>> get it. Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.
>>>>> Not
>>>>> everyone who gets hospitalized will die.
>>>>>
>>>>> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping
>>>>> this thing way out of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can
>>>>> of
>>>>> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone. Every package of disinfectant
>>>>> wipes were gone. Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy.
>>>>> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away. God forbid we
>>>>> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then? Going to start
>>>>> burning and looting?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>>> www.Myakka.com <http://www.myakka.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or
>>>>> blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I
>>>>> can
>>>>> find though.
>>>>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any
>>>>> spin:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist. Therefore Bernie is a
>>>>> Nazi. So the Internet says.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>>>
>>>>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time...
>>>>> russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running
>>>>> too.... Weve said too much
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
>>>>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>>>>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
>>>>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
>>>>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols
>>>>> husband
>>>>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about.
>>>>> Germany
>>>>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > bp
>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> "conspiracy".
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the
>>>>> interim
>>>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>>>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>>>>> >> won't let go of them.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong
>>>>> Kong
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>>>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>>>>> bunkers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. Really? Or
>>>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>>>>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the
>>>>> time
>>>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen
>>>>> actual
>>>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>>>>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>>>>> >>> particularly deadly.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
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