Reacting with outrage to something Steve says is why he says it.    Don’t take 
him, or yourself too seriously.  Or me either for that matter.

Mark


> On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> It's extremist to accuse me and people like me of wanting a tragic outcome, 
> ie to want people to suffer and die.  Please keep your extremist right wing 
> BS off this list.    
> 
> "If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current 
> executive" <-- This BS has no place on this list.  
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:51 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would 
> actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl.
> how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like 
> chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in nothing 
> out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting people in a 
> quarantine have the choice?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com 
> <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:
> Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!  It is insulting and 
> pretty disgusting.  Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list.  It 
> doesn't belong here.  
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if this 
> is as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having people 
> going door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea.
> 
> If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current 
> executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of rep seats 
> since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what plagues decimate.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> Brilliant!
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe send them via cruise ship.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
>  
> 
> We could just send anyone with this bug to China.  Problem solved. 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Ken Hohhof
> 
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM
> 
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe they can send it to us.  Today for the first time I heard the term 
> “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds.  Person was saying US healthcare 
> industry has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero 
> empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge capacity.  Let’s hope 
> somebody’s looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas where 
> outbreaks happen.  The Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular approach to 
> quickly creating a field hospital.  Reminds me of MASH.  Time for a bug out!
> 
>  
> 
> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the first page 
> of results were mostly studies after Katrina.  A hurricane is worse because 
> it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating capacity.  With the 
> coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is infecting all the 
> hospital staff and first responders so they get quarantined.  This appears to 
> be happening with that nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.  25 firefighters 
> are now quarantined as a precaution because they had been to that facility.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
>  
> 
> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have enough 
> patients
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from COVID-19 
> before eating an old baguette!
> 
> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the end.
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>  
> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> 
> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for tonight’s 
> dinner.  Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes.  Probably the only 
> thing in their pantry is cigarettes and wine.  But at least if these are the 
> end times, they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end.  Who cares 
> about Spam and Vienna sausages.
> 
>  
> 
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
> Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
>  
> 
> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation.  Some part of 
> you is rooting for it.
> 
> Just a hypothesis.
> 
>  
> 
> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> 
> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. most of 
> the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most capable of 
> utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we have 
> the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never understood why 
> people on the right get very nervous about these things. a lot like devout 
> christians worying about end times and rapture.
> 
>  
> 
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> 
> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt right 
> too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the same place 
> at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  
> 
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com 
> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
> 
>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it at 
> home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I know 
> you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.   
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com <http://www.myakka.com/>
> 
> ------
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
> 
> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), 
> but sounds kind of science-y.
> 
> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six 
> weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this 
> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through 
> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with 
> hundreds of infections likely in the state. 
> 
> 
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports 
> anything close to “we are all going to die”.
> 
> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
> all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
> hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your 
> hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think 
> that’s doomsday advice.
> 
> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  
> Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart 
> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
> 
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
> 
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
> 
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you 
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  
> The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 
> 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely 
> scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it 
> reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.
> 
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the 
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered 
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not 
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who 
> gets hospitalized will die.
> 
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this 
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol 
> or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were 
> gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest 
> reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported 
> case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com 
> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com <http://www.myakka.com/>
> 
> ------
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
> 
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
> pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>  
> <https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you>
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> 
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  
> So the Internet says.
> 
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
> Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
> asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too.... Weve 
> said too much
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> 
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically 
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. 
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a 
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global 
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband 
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany 
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there 
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
> >> won't let go of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
> >>
> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
> >>>
> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
> >>>
> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
> >>> particularly deadly.
> >>>
> >>
> >
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