I don't consider myself "left" and I'm not "right" and I won't be smug if the admin f's this up. I'll feel threatened and more inclined not to trust the admin to get other stuff right.

On 03/02/2020 09:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I'd imagine "the left" suspects the chief executive will fail to organize a proper response. They would probably feel smug if they're proven right. I haven't seen such expectations from "the left", but I can certainly imagine what they look like.

Meanwhile "the right" nurses zombie apocalypse fantasies. They'll save the country by shooting all the infected or something.

Steve has now convinced me to buy more ammo. Not because I'm worried about the horde of people fleeing a quarantine, but I am now worried about how I'd face a group of vigilante Steves.



On 3/2/2020 11:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
It does seem like it would please some of them.
But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic outcome.

On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl. how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting people in a quarantine have the choice? On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

    Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!  It is
    insulting and pretty disgusting.  Keep your extremist BS on some
    right wing troll list.  It doesn't belong here.
    On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

        a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems
        to me if this is as infectious as the media would like you to
        believe that having people going door to door in communities
        wouldnt be such a great idea.
        If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on
        the current executive, they may have to accept the
        consequence, less house of rep seats since they get their
        seats from cities, and cities is what plagues decimate.
        On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
        wrote:

            Brilliant!

            Maybe send them via cruise ship.

            *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
            *ch...@wbmfg.com
            *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

We could just send anyone with this bug to China. Problem solved.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

            *Sent:*Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM

            *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

            Maybe they can send it to us.  Today for the first time I
            heard the term “surge capacity” applied to hospital
            beds.  Person was saying US healthcare industry has made
            hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero
            empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge
            capacity.  Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open
            up more facilities in areas where outbreaks happen. The
            Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular approach to
quickly creating a field hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time for a bug out!

            I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity”
            and the first page of results were mostly studies after
            Katrina. A hurricane is worse because it closes down
            hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating capacity.  With the
            coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is
            infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so
            they get quarantined.  This appears to be happening with
            that nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.  25
            firefighters are now quarantined as a precaution because
            they had been to that facility.

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve
            Jones
            *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

            Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they
            dont have enough patients

            On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince
            <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would
                rather die from COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!

                If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD
                and hasten the end.

                bp

                <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                    Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even
                    stock food for tonight’s dinner. Because who
                    wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes.  Probably the
                    only thing in their pantry is cigarettes and
                    wine.  But at least if these are the end times,
                    they have cigarettes and wine while they watch
                    the end.  Who cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.

                    *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On
                    Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
                    *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
                    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                    You need the disaster to occur to justify all
                    your preparation. Some part of you is rooting for it.

                    Just a hypothesis.

                    On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

                        i never understood it, on the right, we tend
                        to be the most prepared. most of the die hard
                        preppers are right minded. we tend to be the
                        most capable of utilizing primal tools and
                        food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we
                        have the best firepower and ammunition and
                        training. so i never understood why people on
                        the right get very nervous about these
                        things. a lot like devout christians worying
                        about end times and rapture.

                        On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown
                        <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                            My oldest home - again son is much worse
                            than you guys.  He is very alt right
                            too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have
                            never seen them both at the same place at
                            the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is
                            gonna get us all.

                            Sent from my iPhone

                                On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark -
                                Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com>
                                wrote:

                                 On a side note.  Thanks for letting
                                me rant and rave here.  Can't do it
                                at home, wife just rolls eyes and
tells me I'm a grumpy old man. Chuck, I know you are saving me a few
                                $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.


                                --
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                                Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

                                Myakka Technologies, Inc.
                                www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>

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                                Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM,
                                you wrote:


                                        

                                OK, maybe this is hysterical
                                reporting (it’s from Washington Post
                                after all), but sounds kind of science-y.

                                The novel coronavirus has probably
                                been spreading undetected for about
                                six weeks in Washington state, where
                                the first U.S. death was reported
                                this weekend. A genetic analysis
                                suggests that the cases are linked
                                through community transmission and
                                that this has been going on for
                                weeks, with hundreds of infections
                                likely in the state.


                                *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                                *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
                                *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
                                *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users
                                Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                                Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart
                                thing.  I have not seen news reports
                                anything close to “we are all going
                                to die”.

                                And I just stopped at the grocery
                                store, no signs at all of people
buying up all the Lysol and Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump
                                bottles of foaming hand soap we like,
                                but the shelf was full. News reports
                                have said wash your hands and that
                                it’s good advice for seasonal flu as
                                well, I don’t think that’s doomsday
                                advice.

                                I have not checked Walmart, maybe
                                things are all crazy there (as
                                usual). Actually I have to admit that
                                I recently discovered the steaks from
                                Walmart are actually pretty good,
                                they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.

                                *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                                *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka Technologies
                                *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
                                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
                                Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                                There are only a few things we know
                                for sure.

                                1. It is already in the US
                                2. More people in the US will get it
                                3. More people in the US will die.

                                Anything other than this is pure
                                speculation at this point. We don't
                                know anything about this virus. Most
                                everything I hear or read about this
                                virus starts off with the equivalent
                                of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if
                                you bother to listen or read the
                                article, it always has "may" or "some
                                experts".  The current official
                                incubation period is 2-14 days, but
                                hey lets just report 14 days and base
                                all our models on this and report it
                                as the most likely scenario.  We
                                don't know how long it lives on
                                surfaces. We don't know how it reacts
                                to UV light. We don't know how it
                                will do in warm/humid conditions.

                                My opinion (just as valid as anyone
                                else's),  This virus has been in the
                                states before the first reported
                                case.  People have had it and
                                recovered thinking it was just the
                                flu. Not everyone exposed is going to
                                get it.  Not everyone who gets it is
                                going to need to be hospitalized. Not
                                everyone who gets hospitalized will die.

                                The media once again is doing us a
                                huge dis-service. They are hyping
                                this thing  way out of proportion.
                                Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can
                                of Lysol or Lysol type of product was
                                gone.  Every package of disinfectant
                                wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any
                                sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
                                The closest reported "maybe" case is
                                over 1300 miles away. God forbid we
                                get a reported case in Florida, what
                                will happen then?  Going to start
                                burning and looting?


                                --
                                Best regards,
                                Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

                                Myakka Technologies, Inc.
                                www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com>

                                ------

                                Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM,
                                you wrote:


                                        

                                I am not a doctor. I don't even play
                                one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I
                                do pay attention to as much
                                scientifically-based information I
                                can find though.
                                This is a pretty good synopsis on our
                                current knowledge without any spin:
                                
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

                                bp
                                <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                                On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


                                        

                                Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a
                                socialist. Therefore Bernie is a
                                Nazi.  So the Internet says.

                                *From:*AF
                                mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On
                                Behalf Of *Steve Jones
                                *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020
                                10:48 AM
                                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
                                Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
                                (was UBNT stock)

                                thats the secret, remember russia
                                shafted the nazis last time... russia
                                is in asia, so russians are asians.
                                Taking them out of the running
                                too.... Weve said too much

                                On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam
                                Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


                                        

                                Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits.

                                On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


                                        

                                Im suprised that hasnt gotten
                                traction. This is obviously
                                genetically designed to target
                                Asians. The proof is that 99% of
                                infections are asians. Obviously this
                                is the resurgence of the Nazi party
                                trying to eliminate a majority of the
                                population so they can initiate
                                another run at global domination. My
                                neighbors mom, Karen told me that her
                                friend, carols husband Brad told her
                                that he heard that this is what
                                brexit was all about. Germany and
                                Great Britian are forming an alliance
                                now. Its all hush hush, but there is
                                a shadow government of guess what...
                                Nazis.

                                On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam
                                Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


                                        

                                You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?

                                On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
                                > I'm waiting for Godwin...
                                >
                                >
                                > bp
                                > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
                                >
                                > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett
                                wrote:
                                >> The thing driving me nuts right
                                now is that literally everything is a
                                >> "conspiracy".
                                >>
                                >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody
                                did it on purpose, and nobody has the
                                >> whole picture of what happened
                                until more time passes. In the interim
                                >> there's a lot of conflicting
                                information going around. People latch
                                >> onto early bits of information
                                that turn out to be wrong and they
                                >> won't let go of them.
                                >>
                                >> Coronavirus was created by the
                                Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
                                >>
                                >> Coronavirus was created by the USA
                                to defeat China in a trade war
                                >>
                                >> Coronavirus was created by
                                Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
                                >> mean that one's obviously a
                                joke.....right?)
                                >>
                                >> Coronavirus will kill us all and
                                we must all stock our survival bunkers.
                                >>
                                >> China is hiding all the
                                information about Coronavirus.
                                Really? Or
                                >> maybe they just don't have a live
                                real-time omniscient feed of all
                                >> information so they're reporting
                                what they think is true at the time
                                >> it's said, or maybe rumors on
                                Facebook aren't all true.
                                >>
                                >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince
                                wrote:
                                >>> Starting a new thread to make
                                this discussion off topic.
                                >>>
                                >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
                                >>>
                                >>> Still zero reported deaths in the
                                US, and only about a dozen actual
                                >>> infections. I am still thinking
                                this is not a big deal. Novel
                                >>> Coronavirus appears to be more
                                infectious than SARS, but not
                                >>> particularly deadly.
                                >>>
                                >>
                                >

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