See who do you believe state officials, government officials, media pundits (we dont have journalists now), witnesses, victims, matt...er karen? They all say different things. The two maps at least have the public record numbers
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > Washington state officials said Saturday they have seen at least two new > coronavirus cases tied to a longterm care facility, the Life Care Center > of Kirkland <https://lcca.com/locations/wa/kirkland/>. > > The patient who died, however, was not tied to the care facility. > > "At this point, we don't have links," Duchin said. > > Duchin said he was "very concerned" about spread in the facility, which > has about 108 residents and 180 staff. About 27 residents were showing > symptoms, as well as 25 staff, Duchin said. > > One worker at the facility – a person in their 40s with no known travel > history to affected areas – tested positive for the virus and was in > satisfactory condition, officials said. > > A resident at the facility in their 70s also tested positive and was in > serious condition. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:16 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool > > > > Well, 2 of west coast cases have been found to have a nursing home in > common, it was reported the death was a male resident of the nursing home > ("reported" because earlier he was a she, never know these days what bio it > is with floating pronouns) if it was a nursing home, then we will find out > just how viralent it is. Nursing homes are death camps for communicable > disease. With a patient haveing gone through the imcubation period that > matt says youre contagous, to the symptomatic stage, all the way to death, > every resident should have it, and at least half the staff. > > > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:04 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> > wrote: > > Steve, > > Lets assume Chain is shoveling us a bunch of shit numbers. We can also > assume that the high death rate in China is due to their total lack of > concern for the older citizens. Let's be brutally honest, how much time, > effort and money are they going to spend on a 60+ old rice/pig farmer to > keep him/her alive. > > Now lets look at the giant floating petri dish called the diamond > princess. That ship had about 3500 people on it. Last I heard there were > 705 cases confirmed. I would have to say that almost 100% of those people > on that ship came into contact with the virus at some point in time. The > quarantine was a failure. But for argument sake, lets say only 1750 (50%) > of the people were exposed. That means only 4 in 10 people exposed got the > virus. Remember only 5% of the people that got the virus are in critical > condition at the moment. I'm also betting that number is skewed based on > the age group that ship targets. > > At the end of the day, some people will get this virus, some people will > die. Unfortunately this happens all the time, people get sick and people > die. People react differently to different viruses not everyone is going > to be infected. > > The panic the media is causing with this is disgusting. I can understand > some of the fringe outlets using bait click headlines, but even the big > boys are stooping to new lows to try to get eyeballs. > > There is a lot of stuff we don't know about this virus, but just repeating > made up shit that you read somewhere on facebook is not helping. My made > up shit is just as valid as anyone else's. So here is my made up shit... > > I think this will start leveling off as the weather gets warmer. We will > get a good idea how it will react to warm weather over the next two weeks. > Let's watch Brazil, Mexico, Sri Lanka and the other areas that are getting > warmer weather. Lets see if in 2-3 weeks, they blow up like S. Korea. > Lets see how this starts to spread in the states. The month of March is > going to be huge. In the next week, spring break starts. We will be > getting college students with not the best hygiene habits descending on AZ, > TX, FL, LA, AL, etc. Talking about a giant petri dish. Then they all go > back to school to share with their friends and teachers. > > I'm not panicking yet. Hell, I'll be a Disney World in two weeks unless > something drastic happens. > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <m...@mailmt.com> > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.Myakka.com > > ------ > > Saturday, February 29, 2020, 4:26:17 PM, you wrote: > > You literally said it was going to be bad in 2 weeks, 3 weeks ago, karen > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 2:50 PM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > It’s called logarithmic advancement. Watch where we are in two weeks. It’s > going to be very bad. > > On Feb 29, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > You want me to list all the diseases in the recent past they scare tactic > with "it may stick with you for life" of course, no actual health > specialists says that, just the media, and karen. > Im waiting still to see an explosion of cases. Been in the US about 4 > incubation cycles now, during flu season, when people are most asceptic. I > like watchong bloviating over nothingburgers, gets my old juices flowing. > > Monday, 700 point gain > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 2:30 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Both. > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/29/2020 12:25 PM, Robert wrote: > > had->Have > > On 2/29/20 11:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the US has actually > already had thousands of cases that have not been diagnosed. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/29/2020 11:47 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > Well. We have around 60 cases in the U.S. and we just had the first death. > > That’s not a good track record. > > On Feb 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Don't forget that there are dozens, maybe hundreds, maybe even thousands > of corona viruses in circulation. One of the issues of "curing" the common > cold is because corona viruses mutate like crazy. I am now firmly of the > opinion that the COVID-19 virus has been circulating longer than anyone > knew, and it's been written off as just another cold. We shall see. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/29/2020 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Hard to judge fatality rate when new cases are just starting to rise in a > country. They may be undercounting the cases because, like you say, they > haven’t been testing. On the other hand, maybe the people haven’t had it > long enough to die yet. > > Maybe these mystery cases ate bat or pangolin. Just kidding. But you > almost have to wonder if there have always been a certain number of people > with this or a related coronavirus and we are only finding out because we > are testing now. No, that sounds like a conspiracy theory. More likely > someone who travelled to Italy or Iran sneezed on them. With the virus > living for up to 9 days on surfaces, could money become a vehicle for > transmission? I know lots of people use cards or their phones to pay for > everything, but this could be the death of paper money and coins. Think > where that stuff has been. But on the other hand, the virus is spreading > like crazy in mostly cashless countries. > > Oh, and I saw that a patient in Washington state has died. No details. > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf > Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:57 PM > *To: *af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool > > Interesting that the fatalities in China are around 3.4%, yet the > fatalities outside China are only .1%. > Listening to the news this morning, it's become apparent that outside of > China, no one was prepared, and that they really have not been testing. > Problems with test kits; like they were not working correctly, and > secondly, no one was testing. > I believe (now) that this virus has already spanned the globe, and the > major saving grace is that 80% of the cases are mild or asymptomatic. it > is, after all, just another corona virus. New or not, we deal with viruses > like it all the time. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/29/2020 10:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > From WHO statement yesterday: > “Outside China, there are now 4351 cases in 49 countries, and 67 deaths. > Since yesterday, Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands and Nigeria have > all reported their first cases. All these cases have links to Italy. > 24 cases have been exported from Italy to 14 countries, and 97 cases have > been exported from Iran to 11 countries. > The continued increase in the number of cases, and the number of affected > countries over the last few days, are clearly of concern.” > Thanks, Italy and Iran. > > China numbers are looking promising, but Italy 300 new cases and South > Korea 900. Number of countries with confirmed cases is around 60. > > I see the photos from places like China and S. Korea with soldiers > spraying public places with disinfectant, and the steps takeout food places > and stores are taking to avoid transmission, and I wonder if that is > feasible here. > > Meanwhile S. Korea has tested 35,000 people, the US has tested 400. > Shortage of test kits, and guidelines to only test people who have > travelled to China. If you can believe the Internet (stupid question) Hong > Kong is even testing pets. We don’t even have enough kits to test people. > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf > Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:54 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool > > Where are they popping up everywhere? > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 11:39 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote: > > That's very realistic. Local outbreaks are popping up everywhere now > and it's the tip of the iceberg. > > On 02/29/2020 07:35 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > It’s about a 20 day boat trip. And even if it comes by air it will sit > > at the distributor for a bit. Then a few days in transit to you. > > > > We will probably quarantine Chinese stock for a week or two just to be > > safe. > > > > I’m more worried about the local out breaks and stock shortages than > > contamination of stock. > > > > On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com > > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: > > > >> Covid-19 is active for 9 days on cardboard and plastic. Hopefully it > >> arrives more slowly than that. > >> > >> On 2/29/20 7:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >>> Our boards shipped last week. So I think things will be OK hopefully. > >>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 5:38 PM > >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool > >>> Every couple of months a question about "is there anywhere I can get > >>> unpopulated circuit boards manufactured at a reasonable price outside > >>> mainland china?" comes up on a couple of forums/mailing lists I'm > >>> on. The answer always turns out to be no. It's amazing that > >>> somewhere else hasn't figured out how to replicate what China is > >>> doing as far as the circuit boards go, even if it was double the > >>> price. For comparison, US suppliers are typically over 20 times the > >>> price - a board that is under a dollar each from China can cost $20 > >>> to get made in the USA. > >>> So, like everyone else, our blank circuit boards come from a supplier > >>> in China. Right now, things are backlogged, but it looks like > >>> they're close to caught up. In an abundance of caution, we went > >>> ahead and pulled in 6 months worth for anything we're currently > >>> shipping, so they'll be here in the next few weeks and we don't have > >>> to worry so much. We haven't inserted an order for the new Base 3 > >>> boards yet, but we expect by the time we do sometime next week that > >>> the backlog will be largely cleared from our preferred supplier in > China. > >>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:12 PM Lewis Bergman > >>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Probably not. It has taken decades for China to build the supply > >>> chain they have. Some countries, like Vietnam, don't have the > >>> infrastructure, much less the slip set to do it > >>> I don't doubt they will start planning to diversify, but doing it > >>> is years away. > >>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 5:49 PM Steve Jones > >>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I have a suspicion that very soon, one or two major companies > >>> will announce contracts to move production to another > >>> country, like within the next two weeks. Many other will > >>> follow suit, diversity in production is probably going to > >>> decimate the chinese economy. > >>> I expect an unrelated announcement this weekend that will > >>> quell the downward spiral, a short recovery on monday. > >>> Within a week or so the administration will temporarily ease > >>> tarriffs on humanitarian reasons > >>> By the end of march I think even if the kungflu is still > >>> present, it will be less impactful. > >>> Recoveries are outpacing deaths now 2:1, new infections are > >>> beginning to stagnate. we will see a bump as more > >>> surveillance comes on board, its loose in california, and > >>> they poop on the streets, so there will be some controlled > >>> outbreaks there, no worse than hepatitis, but the plateau is > >>> here, excluding some major calamity, like an outbreak in > >>> mexico (this will have major geopolitical consequence that > >>> will heavily reflect in the markets). its probably going to > >>> do some harm in africa with the locusts, but i dont know that > >>> africa really impacts markets, they still have ebola running > >>> around. > >>> By the end of march, the market will be on the rebound, early > >>> april it will pass 30, that will drive an april speculative > >>> growth between 33 and 35 that will correct back down to 29-31 > >>> in may. > >>> around this time production will be back to normal, and the > >>> reorganized sourcing will be coming on line and the vaccine > >>> will be moving to the next stage > >>> supply chain disruptions will be recovering > >>> china will be starving, but humanitarian aid will give > >>> everybody a gleeful feeling of global unity. > >>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I should have moved it, but I will take the roller > >>> coaster ride. And it was up so high too.... > >>> *From:* Matt Hoppes > >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 3:58 PM > >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool > >>> Let it keep going down! I moved everything to Money > >>> Market Monday. Once it bottoms out I’ll stick it back in > >>> stocks. > >>> > >>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Darin Steffl > >>> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I just wanna know when we hit rock bottom so I can buy > >>>> as much up as possible :) > >>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 4:38 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> How long before the stock market recovers. Stats > >>>> would suggest 4 months. > >>>> But if the virus actually becomes a “thing”, like > >>>> the sky is falling thing, I am sure that will > >>>> extend this correction. > >>>> -- > >>>> AF mailing list > >>>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AF mailing list > >>>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> - Forrest > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> -- > >>> AF mailing list > >>> AF@af.afmug.com > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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