Hard to judge fatality rate when new cases are just starting to
rise in a country. They may be undercounting the cases because,
like you say, they haven’t been testing. On the other hand, maybe
the people haven’t had it long enough to die yet.
Maybe these mystery cases ate bat or pangolin. Just kidding. But
you almost have to wonder if there have always been a certain
number of people with this or a related coronavirus and we are only
finding out because we are testing now. No, that sounds like a
conspiracy theory. More likely someone who travelled to Italy or
Iran sneezed on them. With the virus living for up to 9 days on
surfaces, could money become a vehicle for transmission? I know
lots of people use cards or their phones to pay for everything, but
this could be the death of paper money and coins. Think where that
stuff has been. But on the other hand, the virus is spreading like
crazy in mostly cashless countries.
Oh, and I saw that a patient in Washington state has died. No details.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:57 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
Interesting that the fatalities in China are around 3.4%, yet the
fatalities outside China are only .1%.
Listening to the news this morning, it's become apparent that
outside of China, no one was prepared, and that they really have
not been testing. Problems with test kits; like they were not
working correctly, and secondly, no one was testing.
I believe (now) that this virus has already spanned the globe, and
the major saving grace is that 80% of the cases are mild or
asymptomatic. it is, after all, just another corona virus. New or
not, we deal with viruses like it all the time.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/29/2020 10:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
From WHO statement yesterday:
“Outside China, there are now 4351 cases in 49 countries, and
67 deaths.
Since yesterday, Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands and
Nigeria have all reported their first cases. All these cases
have links to Italy.
24 cases have been exported from Italy to 14 countries, and 97
cases have been exported from Iran to 11 countries.
The continued increase in the number of cases, and the number
of affected countries over the last few days, are clearly of
concern.”
Thanks, Italy and Iran.
China numbers are looking promising, but Italy 300 new cases
and South Korea 900. Number of countries with confirmed cases
is around 60.
I see the photos from places like China and S. Korea with
soldiers spraying public places with disinfectant, and the
steps takeout food places and stores are taking to avoid
transmission, and I wonder if that is feasible here.
Meanwhile S. Korea has tested 35,000 people, the US has tested
400. Shortage of test kits, and guidelines to only test people
who have travelled to China. If you can believe the Internet
(stupid question) Hong Kong is even testing pets. We don’t
even have enough kits to test people.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:54 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
Where are they popping up everywhere?
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 11:39 AM Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
That's very realistic. Local outbreaks are popping up
everywhere now
and it's the tip of the iceberg.
On 02/29/2020 07:35 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> It’s about a 20 day boat trip. And even if it comes by
air it will sit
> at the distributor for a bit. Then a few days in transit
to you.
>
> We will probably quarantine Chinese stock for a week or
two just to be
> safe.
>
> I’m more worried about the local out breaks and stock
shortages than
> contamination of stock.
>
> On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Robert
<i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
>
>> Covid-19 is active for 9 days on cardboard and plastic.
Hopefully it
>> arrives more slowly than that.
>>
>> On 2/29/20 7:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> Our boards shipped last week. So I think things will
be OK hopefully.
>>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 5:38 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>>> Every couple of months a question about "is there
anywhere I can get
>>> unpopulated circuit boards manufactured at a reasonable
price outside
>>> mainland china?" comes up on a couple of forums/mailing
lists I'm
>>> on. The answer always turns out to be no. It's
amazing that
>>> somewhere else hasn't figured out how to replicate what
China is
>>> doing as far as the circuit boards go, even if it was
double the
>>> price. For comparison, US suppliers are typically
over 20 times the
>>> price - a board that is under a dollar each from China
can cost $20
>>> to get made in the USA.
>>> So, like everyone else, our blank circuit boards come
from a supplier
>>> in China. Right now, things are backlogged, but it
looks like
>>> they're close to caught up. In an abundance of
caution, we went
>>> ahead and pulled in 6 months worth for anything we're
currently
>>> shipping, so they'll be here in the next few weeks and
we don't have
>>> to worry so much. We haven't inserted an order for
the new Base 3
>>> boards yet, but we expect by the time we do sometime
next week that
>>> the backlog will be largely cleared from our preferred
supplier in China.
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:12 PM Lewis Bergman
>>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably not. It has taken decades for China to
build the supply
>>> chain they have. Some countries, like Vietnam,
don't have the
>>> infrastructure, much less the slip set to do it
>>> I don't doubt they will start planning to
diversify, but doing it
>>> is years away.
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 5:49 PM Steve Jones
>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a suspicion that very soon, one or two
major companies
>>> will announce contracts to move production to
another
>>> country, like within the next two weeks. Many
other will
>>> follow suit, diversity in production is
probably going to
>>> decimate the chinese economy.
>>> I expect an unrelated announcement this weekend
that will
>>> quell the downward spiral, a short recovery on
monday.
>>> Within a week or so the administration will
temporarily ease
>>> tarriffs on humanitarian reasons
>>> By the end of march I think even if the kungflu
is still
>>> present, it will be less impactful.
>>> Recoveries are outpacing deaths now 2:1, new
infections are
>>> beginning to stagnate. we will see a bump as more
>>> surveillance comes on board, its loose in
california, and
>>> they poop on the streets, so there will be some
controlled
>>> outbreaks there, no worse than hepatitis, but
the plateau is
>>> here, excluding some major calamity, like an
outbreak in
>>> mexico (this will have major geopolitical
consequence that
>>> will heavily reflect in the markets). its
probably going to
>>> do some harm in africa with the locusts, but i
dont know that
>>> africa really impacts markets, they still have
ebola running
>>> around.
>>> By the end of march, the market will be on the
rebound, early
>>> april it will pass 30, that will drive an april
speculative
>>> growth between 33 and 35 that will correct back
down to 29-31
>>> in may.
>>> around this time production will be back to
normal, and the
>>> reorganized sourcing will be coming on line and
the vaccine
>>> will be moving to the next stage
>>> supply chain disruptions will be recovering
>>> china will be starving, but humanitarian aid
will give
>>> everybody a gleeful feeling of global unity.
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:28 PM
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I should have moved it, but I will take the
roller
>>> coaster ride. And it was up so high too....
>>> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 3:58 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>>> Let it keep going down! I moved everything
to Money
>>> Market Monday. Once it bottoms out I’ll
stick it back in
>>> stocks.
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Darin Steffl
>>> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
<mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just wanna know when we hit rock bottom
so I can buy
>>>> as much up as possible :)
>>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 4:38 PM
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How long before the stock market
recovers. Stats
>>>> would suggest 4 months.
>>>> But if the virus actually becomes a
“thing”, like
>>>> the sky is falling thing, I am sure
that will
>>>> extend this correction.
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