Could be geometrical expansion, linear expansion, second order expansion.  
Totally depends on the R factor which was 2.2 the last I heard.  

From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 1:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

It’s called logarithmic advancement. Watch where we are in two weeks. It’s 
going to be very bad. 

On Feb 29, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:


  You want me to list all the diseases in the recent past they scare tactic 
with "it may stick with you for life" of course, no actual health specialists 
says that, just the media, and karen.  
  Im waiting still to see an explosion of cases. Been in the US about 4 
incubation cycles now, during flu season, when people are most asceptic. I like 
watchong bloviating over nothingburgers, gets my old juices flowing.

  Monday, 700 point gain

  On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 2:30 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Both.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/29/2020 12:25 PM, Robert wrote:

      had->Have


      On 2/29/20 11:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

        I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the US has actually 
already had thousands of cases that have not been diagnosed.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/29/2020 11:47 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

          Well. We have around 60 cases in the U.S. and we just had the first 
death. 

          That’s not a good track record. 

          On Feb 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:


            Don't forget that there are dozens, maybe hundreds, maybe even 
thousands of corona viruses in circulation. One of the issues of "curing" the 
common cold is because corona viruses mutate like crazy. I am now firmly of the 
opinion that the COVID-19 virus has been circulating longer than anyone knew, 
and it's been written off as just another cold. We shall see.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/29/2020 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

              Hard to judge fatality rate when new cases are just starting to 
rise in a country.  They may be undercounting the cases because, like you say, 
they haven’t been testing.  On the other hand, maybe the people haven’t had it 
long enough to die yet.



              Maybe these mystery cases ate bat or pangolin.  Just kidding.  
But you almost have to wonder if there have always been a certain number of 
people with this or a related coronavirus and we are only finding out because 
we are testing now.  No, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.  More likely 
someone who travelled to Italy or Iran sneezed on them.  With the virus living 
for up to 9 days on surfaces, could money become a vehicle for transmission?  I 
know lots of people use cards or their phones to pay for everything, but this 
could be the death of paper money and coins.  Think where that stuff has been.  
But on the other hand, the virus is spreading like crazy in mostly cashless 
countries.



              Oh, and I saw that a patient in Washington state has died.  No 
details.





              From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Bill Prince
              Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:57 PM
              To: af@af.afmug.com
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool



              Interesting that the fatalities  in China are around 3.4%, yet 
the fatalities outside China are only .1%.

              Listening to the news this morning, it's become apparent that 
outside of China, no one was prepared, and that they really have not been 
testing. Problems with test kits; like they were not working correctly, and 
secondly, no one was testing. 

              I believe (now) that this virus has already spanned the globe, 
and the major saving grace is that 80% of the cases are mild or asymptomatic. 
it is, after all, just another corona virus. New or not, we deal with viruses 
like it all the time.



bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/29/2020 10:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                From WHO statement yesterday:

                “Outside China, there are now 4351 cases in 49 countries, and 
67 deaths.

                Since yesterday, Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands and 
Nigeria have all reported their first cases. All these cases have links to 
Italy.

                24 cases have been exported from Italy to 14 countries, and 97 
cases have been exported from Iran to 11 countries.

                The continued increase in the number of cases, and the number 
of affected countries over the last few days, are clearly of concern.”

                Thanks, Italy and Iran.



                China numbers are looking promising, but Italy 300 new cases 
and South Korea 900.  Number of countries with confirmed cases is around 60.



                I see the photos from places like China and S. Korea with 
soldiers spraying public places with disinfectant, and the steps takeout food 
places and stores are taking to avoid transmission, and I wonder if that is 
feasible here.



                Meanwhile S. Korea has tested 35,000 people, the US has tested 
400.  Shortage of test kits, and guidelines to only test people who have 
travelled to China.  If you can believe the Internet (stupid question) Hong 
Kong is even testing pets.  We don’t even have enough kits to test people.



                From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
                Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:54 AM
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                Where are they popping up everywhere?



                On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 11:39 AM Robert Andrews 
<i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

                  That's very realistic.  Local outbreaks are popping up 
everywhere now 
                  and it's the tip of the iceberg.

                  On 02/29/2020 07:35 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
                  > It’s about a 20 day boat trip. And even if it comes by air 
it will sit 
                  > at the distributor for a bit. Then a few days in transit to 
you.
                  > 
                  > We will probably quarantine Chinese stock for a week or two 
just to be 
                  > safe.
                  > 
                  > I’m more worried about the local out breaks and stock 
shortages than 
                  > contamination of stock.
                  > 
                  > On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Robert 
<i...@avantwireless.com 
                  > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
                  > 
                  >> Covid-19 is active for 9 days on cardboard and plastic. 
Hopefully it 
                  >> arrives more slowly than that.
                  >>
                  >> On 2/29/20 7:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
                  >>> Our boards shipped last week.  So I think things will be 
OK hopefully.
                  >>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
                  >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 5:38 PM
                  >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                  >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
                  >>> Every couple of months a question about "is there 
anywhere I can get 
                  >>> unpopulated circuit boards manufactured at a reasonable 
price outside 
                  >>> mainland china?" comes up on a couple of forums/mailing 
lists I'm 
                  >>> on.   The answer always turns out to be no.   It's 
amazing that 
                  >>> somewhere else hasn't figured out how to replicate what 
China is 
                  >>> doing as far as the circuit boards go, even if it was 
double the 
                  >>> price.   For comparison, US suppliers are typically over 
20 times the 
                  >>> price - a board that is under a dollar each from China 
can cost $20 
                  >>> to get made in the USA.
                  >>> So, like everyone else, our blank circuit boards come 
from a supplier 
                  >>> in China.   Right now, things are backlogged, but it 
looks like 
                  >>> they're close to caught up.  In an abundance of caution, 
we went 
                  >>> ahead and pulled in 6 months worth for anything we're 
currently 
                  >>> shipping, so they'll be here in the next few weeks and we 
don't have 
                  >>> to worry so much.   We haven't inserted an order for the 
new Base 3 
                  >>> boards yet, but we expect by the time we do sometime next 
week that 
                  >>> the backlog will be largely cleared from our preferred 
supplier in China.
                  >>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:12 PM Lewis Bergman 
                  >>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
                  >>>
                  >>>     Probably not. It has taken decades for China to build 
the supply
                  >>>     chain they have. Some countries, like Vietnam, don't 
have the
                  >>>     infrastructure, much less the slip set to do it
                  >>>     I don't doubt they will start planning to diversify, 
but doing it
                  >>>     is years away.
                  >>>     On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 5:49 PM Steve Jones
                  >>>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
                  >>>
                  >>>         I have a suspicion that very soon, one or two 
major companies
                  >>>         will announce contracts to move production to 
another
                  >>>         country, like within the next two weeks. Many 
other will
                  >>>         follow suit, diversity in production is probably 
going to
                  >>>         decimate the chinese economy.
                  >>>         I expect an unrelated announcement this weekend 
that will
                  >>>         quell the downward spiral, a short recovery on 
monday.
                  >>>         Within a week or so the administration will 
temporarily ease
                  >>>         tarriffs on humanitarian reasons
                  >>>         By the end of march I think even if the kungflu 
is still
                  >>>         present, it will be less impactful.
                  >>>         Recoveries are outpacing deaths now 2:1, new 
infections are
                  >>>         beginning to stagnate. we will see a bump as more
                  >>>         surveillance comes on board, its loose in 
california, and
                  >>>         they poop on the streets, so there will be some 
controlled
                  >>>         outbreaks there, no worse than hepatitis, but the 
plateau is
                  >>>         here, excluding some major calamity, like an 
outbreak in
                  >>>         mexico (this will have major geopolitical 
consequence that
                  >>>         will heavily reflect in the markets). its 
probably going to
                  >>>         do some harm in africa with the locusts, but i 
dont know that
                  >>>         africa really impacts markets, they still have 
ebola running
                  >>>         around.
                  >>>         By the end of march, the market will be on the 
rebound, early
                  >>>         april it will pass 30, that will drive an april 
speculative
                  >>>         growth between 33 and 35 that will correct back 
down to 29-31
                  >>>         in may.
                  >>>         around this time production will be back to 
normal, and the
                  >>>         reorganized sourcing will be coming on line and 
the vaccine
                  >>>         will be moving to the next stage
                  >>>         supply chain disruptions will be recovering
                  >>>         china will be starving, but humanitarian aid will 
give
                  >>>         everybody a gleeful feeling of global unity.
                  >>>         On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:
                  >>>
                  >>>             I should have moved it, but I will take the 
roller
                  >>>             coaster ride.  And it was up so high too....
                  >>>             *From:* Matt Hoppes
                  >>>             *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 3:58 PM
                  >>>             *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                  >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a 
pool
                  >>>             Let it keep going down! I moved everything to 
Money
                  >>>             Market Monday. Once it bottoms out I’ll stick 
it back in
                  >>>             stocks.
                  >>>
                  >>>             On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Darin Steffl
                  >>>             <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
                  >>>
                  >>>>             I just wanna know when we hit rock bottom so 
I can buy
                  >>>>             as much up as possible :)
                  >>>>             On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 4:38 PM 
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
                  >>>>
                  >>>>                 How long before the stock market 
recovers. Stats
                  >>>>                 would suggest 4 months.
                  >>>>                 But if the virus actually becomes a 
“thing”, like
                  >>>>                 the sky is falling thing,  I am sure 
that will
                  >>>>                 extend this correction.
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