All PCBs are delivered by FedEx.

From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

It’s about a 20 day boat trip. And even if it comes by air it will sit at the 
distributor for a bit. Then a few days in transit to you. 

We will probably quarantine Chinese stock for a week or two just to be safe. 

I’m more worried about the local out breaks and stock shortages than 
contamination of stock. 

On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:


  Covid-19 is active for 9 days on cardboard and plastic.   Hopefully it 
arrives more slowly than that.


  On 2/29/20 7:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

    Our boards shipped last week.  So I think things will be OK hopefully.  

    From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
    Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 5:38 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

    Every couple of months a question about "is there anywhere I can get 
unpopulated circuit boards manufactured at a reasonable price outside mainland 
china?" comes up on a couple of forums/mailing lists I'm on.   The answer 
always turns out to be no.   It's amazing that somewhere else hasn't figured 
out how to replicate what China is doing as far as the circuit boards go, even 
if it was double the price.   For comparison, US suppliers are typically over 
20 times the price - a board that is under a dollar each from China can cost 
$20 to get made in the USA. 

    So, like everyone else, our blank circuit boards come from a supplier in 
China.   Right now, things are backlogged, but it looks like they're close to 
caught up.  In an abundance of caution, we went ahead and pulled in 6 months 
worth for anything we're currently shipping, so they'll be here in the next few 
weeks and we don't have to worry so much.   We haven't inserted an order for 
the new Base 3 boards yet, but we expect by the time we do sometime next week 
that the backlog will be largely cleared from our preferred supplier in China.



    On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:12 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

      Probably not. It has taken decades for China to build the supply chain 
they have. Some countries, like Vietnam, don't have the infrastructure, much 
less the slip set to do it  
      I don't doubt they will start planning to diversify, but doing it is 
years away. 

      On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 5:49 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        I have a suspicion that very soon, one or two major companies will 
announce contracts to move production to another country, like within the next 
two weeks. Many other will follow suit, diversity in production is probably 
going to decimate the chinese economy. 
        I expect an unrelated announcement this weekend that will quell the 
downward spiral, a short recovery on monday. 
        Within a week or so the administration will temporarily ease tarriffs 
on humanitarian reasons
        By the end of march I think even if the kungflu is still present, it 
will be less impactful.
        Recoveries are outpacing deaths now 2:1, new infections are beginning 
to stagnate. we will see a bump as more surveillance comes on board, its loose 
in california, and they poop on the streets, so there will be some controlled 
outbreaks there, no worse than hepatitis, but the plateau is here, excluding 
some major calamity, like an outbreak in mexico (this will have major 
geopolitical consequence that will heavily reflect in the markets). its 
probably going to do some harm in africa with the locusts, but i dont know that 
africa really impacts markets, they still have ebola running around.
        By the end of march, the market will be on the rebound, early april it 
will pass 30, that will drive an april speculative growth between 33 and 35 
that will correct back down to 29-31 in may.
        around this time production will be back to normal, and the reorganized 
sourcing will be coming on line and the vaccine will be moving to the next stage
        supply chain disruptions will be recovering
        china will be starving, but humanitarian aid will give everybody a 
gleeful feeling of global unity.


        On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          I should have moved it, but I will take the roller coaster ride.  And 
it was up so high too....

          From: Matt Hoppes 
          Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 3:58 PM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

          Let it keep going down!  I moved everything to Money Market Monday. 
Once it bottoms out I’ll stick it back in stocks. 

          On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> 
wrote:


            I just wanna know when we hit rock bottom so I can buy as much up 
as possible :) 

            On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 4:38 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

              How long before the stock market recovers.  Stats would suggest 4 
months.  
              But if the virus actually becomes a “thing”, like the sky is 
falling thing,  I am sure that will extend this correction.  
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