Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky.  I can share your contact info 
with him if you’d like
            


              
     Ryan Hill     
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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, Mike did live in Naperville. I forget at times that there's a cluster 
> of people on the list that know where Naperville is.
> 
> I've worked with Liz as well. I've attached her information here.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:21:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
> 
> I remember talking to a Mike Carpinelli at a WISPAmerica, I’d have to dig out 
> his card, but I think you’re right he lived in Naperville or something.  But 
> I also remember various “team” members named Liz, Brian, Scott.  I don’t 
> remember who did what.  I think Liz, maybe last name Christie, was Great 
> Lakes region manager?  But they should be easy enough to contact and find out 
> who to deal with.  First step: NDA.
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 12:09 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
>  
> Hrm, he must have moved. He used to live not far from me.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:21:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
> 
> That's my guy for Ohio.  He lives in Kentucky.
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
>  
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> Mike's my regional guy. He's probably yours too.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:52:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)
> 
> Gotcha, thanks.
>  
> So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix?  Do you have a contact 
> there? 
>  
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com 
> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
> Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since 
> increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and 
> customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing 
> upfront.
>  
> This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great luck 
> upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and a free 
> router for just $10 more with our new plans.
>  
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie 
> <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
> wrote:
> So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on?  Do you 
> charge an upfront fee?
>  
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com 
> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
> I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We are a 
> small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice and many 
> switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, we upsell. 
>  
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP just 
> starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load of 
> routers every day.
>  
> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing customers 
> and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to Calix and meeting 
> their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome.  It’s also easier for a 
> big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE department on getting 
> it done.  For a small WISP, it’s one more project for the head techie.
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Jason McKemie
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest
>  
> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the 844G.
> 
> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> Hard disagree.  The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in terms of 
> hardware.  Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost savings, too.
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so expensive 
> compared to alternatives.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
> <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest
> 
> What does Calix get you for on the management?  I've been looking into some 
> options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty proud 
> of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense for the 
> number of managed routers we would be deploying right now.
>  
> I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's Dream 
> Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple of 
> decades).  At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't need to 
> sacrifice my firstborn for.
>  
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com 
> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
> Guys,
>  
> Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh and we 
> include the first router free in all our plans. 
>  
> Makes a huge difference. 
>  
> Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz channel 
> away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that their service 
> will stink until they switch to our router or get a different mesh system 
> like orbi where you can still set the channel manually.
>  
> We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net 
> <http://speedtest.net/> and selecting one server we like. Also they have to 
> be hardwired to the POE or we won't respond to their tests. This eliminates 
> much of the back and forth wifi speedtests. 
>  
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week.  Plug in, no issue. 
> WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or it's 
> so bad it's just not fixable.
> 
> I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our service, 
> use at your own risk"... but of course, I can't do that.
> 
> On 1/23/20 11:54 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Anybody know if the speedtest built into the Google and Nest WiFi mesh 
> > routers use the same M-Lab speedtest as the one a Google search sends 
> > you to?  Their FAQ seems to indicate it is different and tests to 
> > Youtube servers.
> > 
> > Apparently they have a feature where customers can set it up to 
> > periodically test their speed, and now I have customers calling in to 
> > report that their router says they aren’t getting the speed they’re 
> > paying for.  We burn a bunch of time checking all the stats, including 
> > Preseem which shows no problems at all and actual traffic consistently 
> > to the speed plan they’re on.  When asked what they were trying to do 
> > that was slow or when they ran the speedtest, they can’t cite any 
> > problems and the speedtests were done days ago and they are just 
> > reviewing the Google report.
> > 
> > One guy said the Google report indicated his dish moved in a windstorm 
> > so we needed to come out and fix it.  We have all sorts of graphs on his 
> > signal, SNR, etc. and his dish had not moved.  We had however moved this 
> > tower onto Preseem for bandwidth management around that time.  Everyone 
> > else is seeing better performance as a result, video streaming, gaming 
> > and web browsing now play nice together.  I’m wondering if somehow the 
> > Google speedtest doesn’t like the Preseem algorithms (FQ-CODEL + AQM), 
> > or if their speedtest is just flakey.
> > 
> > I don’t have a Google or Nest WiFi to test with.  We have a whole list 
> > of other reasons why we hate them.  Generally we tell customers not to 
> > buy them unless they are on a 3.65 GHz AP, but customers like to say 
> > screw you and then still expect you to be responsible for their bad 
> > decisions.  (Like the customers who select the cheap plan despite being 
> > told it is too slow to watch streaming video, and then call to complain 
> > about streaming video.)
> > 
> > Other reasons we hate them:
> > 
> > - no dedicated backhaul channel, compared to (for example) Netgear Orbi
> > 
> > - only 1 or 2 Ethernet ports
> > 
> > - requires Google account and app
> > 
> > - requires cloud
> > 
> > - uses Google DNS by default
> > 
> > - tell me they’re not doing data mining
> > 
> > - puck and point terminology is goofy, reminiscent of Apple and their 
> > airports and time capsules
> > 
> > 
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