Yes purchase direct. They have different sales regions so you'll have to reach out to them and ask for your rep.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 2:53 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Gotcha, thanks. > > So you are buying your hardware direct from Calix? Do you have a contact > there? > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > >> Calix used to be an add-on at $50 upfront and $10 per month. We've since >> increased all our plans $10 per month and now the first router is FREE and >> customers love it. If they need a mesh, it's just $5 per month, nothing >> upfront. >> >> This has gotten our take rates 99% for new customers and we've had great >> luck upgrading existing customers too because they get a speed increase and >> a free router for just $10 more with our new plans. >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> So are you including this as part of the service or is it an add-on? Do >>> you charge an upfront fee? >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I didn't find it hard to get 1000+ of these deployed over 2 years. We >>>> are a small wisp and we've only emailed existing customers about it twice >>>> and many switch to it. Also anytime a customer calls and doesn't have one, >>>> we upsell. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Calix CPE is probably an easier decision for a FISP, or for a new WISP >>>>> just starting deployment, or for a big provider that deploys a pallet load >>>>> of routers every day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For an established small WISP with maybe a couple thousand existing >>>>> customers and a modest number of new customers monthly, converting to >>>>> Calix >>>>> and meeting their minimums for cloud features can be troublesome. It’s >>>>> also easier for a big carrier to just put a team of people from their CPE >>>>> department on getting it done. For a small WISP, it’s one more project >>>>> for >>>>> the head techie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 10:51 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last time I checked the 844E + Calix ONT was actually cheaper than the >>>>> 844G. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hard disagree. The 844G is *CHEAP* compared to ONT+WiFi Router in >>>>> terms of hardware. Having one box/troubleshoot point is a nice cost >>>>> savings, too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There's no way Calix will get a dime from me. Everything is so >>>>> expensive compared to alternatives. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:29:01 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google/Nest WiFi speedtest >>>>> >>>>> What does Calix get you for on the management? I've been looking into >>>>> some options for managed routers, and I like the 844E, but Calix is pretty >>>>> proud of their management platform and it just doesn't make a lot of sense >>>>> for the number of managed routers we would be deploying right now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Ubiquiti's >>>>> Dream Machine (unfortunate name, since Sony has been using it for a couple >>>>> of decades). At least Ubiquiti has a management platform that I don't >>>>> need >>>>> to sacrifice my firstborn for. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Start heavily pushing managed routers. We're all Calix with 804mesh >>>>> and we include the first router free in all our plans. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Makes a huge difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Google wifi is bad because there's no way to manually set the 5ghz >>>>> channel away from our radio. We have one customer we told this and that >>>>> their service will stink until they switch to our router or get a >>>>> different >>>>> mesh system like orbi where you can still set the channel manually. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We also do not support any speedtest except speedtest.net and >>>>> selecting one server we like. Also they have to be hardwired to the POE or >>>>> we won't respond to their tests. This eliminates much of the back and >>>>> forth >>>>> wifi speedtests. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 AM Matt Hoppes < >>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've had a slew of wifi related calls this week. Plug in, no issue. >>>>> WiFi -- interference - customer needs to get a dual band router, or >>>>> it's >>>>> so bad it's just not fixable. >>>>> >>>>> I really just want to tell folks "WiFi is not supported on our >>>>> service, >>>>> use at your own risk"... but of course, I can't do that. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/23/20 11:54 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>> > Anybody know if the speedtest built into the Google and Nest WiFi >>>>> mesh >>>>> > routers use the same M-Lab speedtest as the one a Google search >>>>> sends >>>>> > you to? Their FAQ seems to indicate it is different and tests to >>>>> > Youtube servers. >>>>> > >>>>> > Apparently they have a feature where customers can set it up to >>>>> > periodically test their speed, and now I have customers calling in >>>>> to >>>>> > report that their router says they aren’t getting the speed they’re >>>>> > paying for. We burn a bunch of time checking all the stats, >>>>> including >>>>> > Preseem which shows no problems at all and actual traffic >>>>> consistently >>>>> > to the speed plan they’re on. When asked what they were trying to >>>>> do >>>>> > that was slow or when they ran the speedtest, they can’t cite any >>>>> > problems and the speedtests were done days ago and they are just >>>>> > reviewing the Google report. >>>>> > >>>>> > One guy said the Google report indicated his dish moved in a >>>>> windstorm >>>>> > so we needed to come out and fix it. We have all sorts of graphs on >>>>> his >>>>> > signal, SNR, etc. and his dish had not moved. We had however moved >>>>> this >>>>> > tower onto Preseem for bandwidth management around that time. >>>>> Everyone >>>>> > else is seeing better performance as a result, video streaming, >>>>> gaming >>>>> > and web browsing now play nice together. I’m wondering if somehow >>>>> the >>>>> > Google speedtest doesn’t like the Preseem algorithms (FQ-CODEL + >>>>> AQM), >>>>> > or if their speedtest is just flakey. >>>>> > >>>>> > I don’t have a Google or Nest WiFi to test with. We have a whole >>>>> list >>>>> > of other reasons why we hate them. Generally we tell customers not >>>>> to >>>>> > buy them unless they are on a 3.65 GHz AP, but customers like to say >>>>> > screw you and then still expect you to be responsible for their bad >>>>> > decisions. (Like the customers who select the cheap plan despite >>>>> being >>>>> > told it is too slow to watch streaming video, and then call to >>>>> complain >>>>> > about streaming video.) >>>>> > >>>>> > Other reasons we hate them: >>>>> > >>>>> > - no dedicated backhaul channel, compared to (for example) Netgear >>>>> Orbi >>>>> > >>>>> > - only 1 or 2 Ethernet ports >>>>> > >>>>> > - requires Google account and app >>>>> > >>>>> > - requires cloud >>>>> > >>>>> > - uses Google DNS by default >>>>> > >>>>> > - tell me they’re not doing data mining >>>>> > >>>>> > - puck and point terminology is goofy, reminiscent of Apple and >>>>> their >>>>> > airports and time capsules >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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