its manageable, and can always be added as a recovery fee if it comes down
to it


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:39 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a couple bucks per month per CPE.  The number started higher
> and trended downwards.....I'm not sure if it's at the bottom yet.
> I was disappointed about the per CPE thing, but it's not an insane cost.
>
>
> On 1/27/2020 4:00 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> Has there been any indication of what costs are going to be associated
> with the SAS?
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:20 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In CBRS you'll get higher EIRP, you'll no longer have the +2dbm Tx limit
>> on mobile devices, and you'll have access to 3x the spectrum.  Overall
>> you'd much rather operate under the CBRS rules
>>
>> The main reason a person might prefer NN is they don't have to pay for
>> the SAS.
>>
>> In theory you could argue that a grandfathered NN license protects you
>> from interference from a CBRS operator, but a person better make sure
>> they don't have any of those "bodies in the trunk" if they try to call
>> the FCC for help with that. We'd also likely be stuck with old equipment
>> in that case.  If we use the advantages of the new rules then it's hard
>> to argue that we should be protected by the old license, and if we're
>> using old Wimax gear with our old license then we'll be less competitive
>> than someone with modern electronics, another 100mhz, and 8 or 10 more
>> db in the link budget.
>>
>> In my opinion NN is dead already, regardless of what year a specific
>> license expires.
>>
>> RIP NN
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/2020 11:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > Apparently there was a window of time where new or renewed licenses got
>> expiration dates out to like 2025.  See for example WQVI696.  I'm a little
>> unclear on whether all Part 96 equipment becomes illegal this April
>> regardless of whether your NN license expires.  Ours was renewed in October
>> 2018 and expires April 2020, so it's moot unless we get an extension.  But
>> I know at least one WISP that thinks they have lots of time because their
>> license doesn't expire until 2024.
>> >
>> > That's another bizarre feature of how the FCC has handled this.  A
>> license acquired or renewed in 2018 expires in 2020, but one acquired in
>> 2015 runs the full 10 years to 2025?  That's just random.  How can they not
>> grant extensions if some licenses still have 5 years to run?
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of David Coudron
>> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>> >
>> > Yes, that is our understanding.
>> >
>> > David Coudron
>> > david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
>> >
>> > Advantenon, Inc.
>> > i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
>> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local:
>> 612-454-1545
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:33 AM
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>> >
>> > On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> >> yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the FCC.    The FCC
>> >> looked at the registered CPE and decided that WISP’s were not using
>> >> the band without ever considering how badly they fubared the entire
>> >> registration process.
>> >>
>> >> You WISP’s don’t need an extension, you didn’t use the band.   Uh,
>> yeah.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Is the NN shutdown date still April 17, 2020?
>> >
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