Not wrong, just not complete(ish) a "grandfathered" NN is not grandfathered simply by being there. there was a process we had to go through, most of us missed the window because the deadline had passed before we knew we had to. "grandfathered" NN has already clearly been marked for removal, in the short term, from the protections/exemptions from SAS compatibility. I wasnt directing the comment to you specifically, but the broader conversation. It was the sandwiches btw, I just really liked the sandwiches. But the 450 lady was there, 450 being the only Approved product at the time, None of the answers were guesses, they were clear answers or " I will check on this" from people who arent going to their bosses, who are going to their vendor, who are going to a manufacturer. these answers will come back from winnforum, or FCC, pretty much the only two places on the planet where you can get an answer. Cambium has the inside track in being the manufacturer involved from day one, if they have clarification need, they will get them, promptly, and have a little pushing power to get modifications in that make sense. but mostly the sandwiches
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:28 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > What did I get wrong? > On 1/27/2020 2:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Cambium matt... > This is why we need more classes from you guys > just this thread alone, look how much unintentional disinformation is here > this is all over the industry > The real time classroom session with people who actually know, because > theyre on a first name basis with people at FCC and winnforum is necessary > half the CBRS webinars ive sat in on gave half answers, no answers or > wrong answers > Its going to destroy the industry reputation > PUHLEEEEEAAAAASSSSEE > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:20 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In CBRS you'll get higher EIRP, you'll no longer have the +2dbm Tx limit >> on mobile devices, and you'll have access to 3x the spectrum. Overall >> you'd much rather operate under the CBRS rules >> >> The main reason a person might prefer NN is they don't have to pay for >> the SAS. >> >> In theory you could argue that a grandfathered NN license protects you >> from interference from a CBRS operator, but a person better make sure >> they don't have any of those "bodies in the trunk" if they try to call >> the FCC for help with that. We'd also likely be stuck with old equipment >> in that case. If we use the advantages of the new rules then it's hard >> to argue that we should be protected by the old license, and if we're >> using old Wimax gear with our old license then we'll be less competitive >> than someone with modern electronics, another 100mhz, and 8 or 10 more >> db in the link budget. >> >> In my opinion NN is dead already, regardless of what year a specific >> license expires. >> >> RIP NN >> >> >> On 1/27/2020 11:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> > Apparently there was a window of time where new or renewed licenses got >> expiration dates out to like 2025. See for example WQVI696. I'm a little >> unclear on whether all Part 96 equipment becomes illegal this April >> regardless of whether your NN license expires. Ours was renewed in October >> 2018 and expires April 2020, so it's moot unless we get an extension. But >> I know at least one WISP that thinks they have lots of time because their >> license doesn't expire until 2024. >> > >> > That's another bizarre feature of how the FCC has handled this. A >> license acquired or renewed in 2018 expires in 2020, but one acquired in >> 2015 runs the full 10 years to 2025? That's just random. How can they not >> grant extensions if some licenses still have 5 years to run? >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of David Coudron >> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM >> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105 >> > >> > Yes, that is our understanding. >> > >> > David Coudron >> > david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474 >> > >> > Advantenon, Inc. >> > i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN >> 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: >> 612-454-1545 >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen >> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:33 AM >> > To: af@af.afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105 >> > >> > On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >> >> yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the FCC. The FCC >> >> looked at the registered CPE and decided that WISP’s were not using >> >> the band without ever considering how badly they fubared the entire >> >> registration process. >> >> >> >> You WISP’s don’t need an extension, you didn’t use the band. Uh, >> yeah. >> >> >> > >> > Is the NN shutdown date still April 17, 2020? >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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