The thing is, Tesla seems to be trying very hard to not behave like a car company... and a lot of the time, it seems like they do things the way they do just for the sake of being different. I never dealt with the sales side of Tesla (I bought mine used from local dealer), but I have to say that dealing with the service center was, overall, a pretty good experience. The people there went out of their way to be helpful.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 1:19 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > Yeah, the whole thing about buying off the website and not having real > sales people in the showrooms is biting them in the ass and not showing > a good side to the company. There are a lot of parts of Tesla that are > fundamentally broken as far as a Company goes. You always want to sell > a product that sells itself, but that doesn't mean that a company can > ignore the fundamentals of good customer interaction and support. The > blocking and tackling of being a company. > > > On 10/27/2019 05:55 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I looked at one when I was in Dallas at the mall. The two sales people > > there were being both disinterested and rude, which is a difficult > > balance to pull off. > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 10:05 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com > > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: > > > > We went in to try a Tesla last week, I was very interested to find > > that all the driverless features that they have right now are _not_ > > autopilot, the, now, $6K option. So basically the car can very > > close to drive you around with any model they sell right now, but > > it's no where close to what they consider autopilot. > > > > On 10/26/19 12:26 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > >> It sounds like the expectation is that the liability for accidents > >> caused by self-driving cars will rest on the manufacturer. The > >> car itself will also be 'licensed' to drive, and not necessarily > >> the passenger in the "driver's seat". > >> > >> I expect the auto insurance business to take a drastic hit at the > >> point self-driving is widespread. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:51 AM Craig House > >> <cr...@totalhighspeed.net <mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: > >> > >> I would agree. Especially since I am a control freak anyway. > >> Being in a self driving car let alone being in the drivers > >> seat is too stressful for me. My family had a discussion > >> about DUI and self driving cars last weekend. What is the > >> consequences of being under the influence and getting behind > >> the wheel of a self driving car? If the car is doing the > >> driving and the person in the drivers seat is impaired but not > >> driving, can a person be held responsible for DUI? They are > >> not technically driving. And considering this is just the > >> beginning of the trend toward self driving cars, at what point > >> do states start putting laws on the books regarding this? I'm > >> sure the states are already scrambling to figure out how to > >> replace lost revenue from fines. I'm certainly not promoting > >> that someone should do this but we all know it is going to be > >> a court case that will be sent all the way to the top at some > >> point. > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> > >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com > >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >> *Sent: *Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:25:08 AM > >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog > >> > >> Researchers taught lab rats to drive tiny cars to get Froot > >> Loops. Analysis of their poop showed driving reduced stress. > >> Implications for self driving cars? > >> > >> "We concluded that the rats that actually learned to drive had > >> a greater sense of control over their environment that was > >> accompanied by increased DHEA — something like a rodent > >> version of what we refer to as self-efficacy or agency in > >> humans," Lambert said in a statement. > >> > >> tl;dr – driving is fun > >> > >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/watch-these-lab-rats-drive-tiny-cars-get-froot-loops-ncna1072031 > >> > >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > >> *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 8:17 PM > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog > >> > >> No cup holders. Evidently they are pro drinking, but not pro > >> drinking in the car. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 5:54 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com > >> <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote: > >> > >> German cars in general are very different but once you get > >> used to their design quirks you miss them in American > >> made/Japanese made cars. > >> > >> photograph > >> > >> > >> > >> *Daniel White > >> *Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations > >> > >> *phone:* +1 (702) 470-2766 > >> *direct:* +1 (702) 470-2770 > >> > >> > >> Ryan Hill wrote on 10/25/19 06:56: > >> > >> Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android > >> > >> We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, > >> and the learning curve is looking steep. > >> > >> > >> / Ryan Hill / > >> > >> Operations Manager > >> > >> *Amplex I**nternet* > >> > >> (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 > >> > >> www.amplex.net <http://www.amplex.net> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com > >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> <ch...@wbmfg.com > >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a > >> couple hours West. I am totally handicapped now > >> with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane > >> keeping. Just about rear-ended some cars after > >> setting the cruise control. Also am apt to take > >> my hands off the wheel. > >> > >> I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have > >> adaptive cruise control. At least if it does I > >> cannot figure out how to use it. The sat-nav > >> operation was totally unintuitive. Had a weird > >> touch pad thing in the center console. Very > >> difficult to program in a destination address. > >> > >> Never drove a Mercedes before. 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