I remember when they built the “people mover” at O’Hare airport in 1993, they 
ran empty test trains for a long, long time, something like 6 months, before 
they dared to carry live passengers.  This despite operating on rails, stopping 
only at the same 5 places, never encountering other vehicles or pedestrians, 
and traveling at a maximum speed of 26 mph.  Evidently we’ve become a lot more 
comfortable with driverless vehicles.  Well, unless it’s a Boeing 737 Max.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 2:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

 

It sounds like the expectation is that the liability for accidents caused by 
self-driving cars will rest on the manufacturer.  The car itself will also be 
'licensed' to drive, and not necessarily the passenger in the "driver's seat".

 

I expect the auto insurance business to take a drastic hit at the point 
self-driving is widespread.   

 

 

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:51 AM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net 
<mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net> > wrote:

I would agree.  Especially since I am a control freak anyway.   Being in a self 
driving car let alone being in the drivers seat is too stressful for me.  My 
family had a discussion about DUI and self driving cars last weekend.  What is 
the consequences of being under the influence and getting behind the wheel of a 
self driving car?  If the car is doing the driving and the person in the 
drivers seat is impaired but not driving, can a person be held responsible for 
DUI?  They are not technically driving.  And considering this is just the 
beginning of the trend toward self driving cars, at what point do states start 
putting laws on the books regarding this?  I'm sure the states are already 
scrambling to figure out how to replace lost revenue from fines.  I'm certainly 
not promoting that someone should do this but we all know it is going to be a 
court case that will be sent all the way to the top at some point.

 

Craig

 


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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:25:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

 

Researchers taught lab rats to drive tiny cars to get Froot Loops.  Analysis of 
their poop showed driving reduced stress.  Implications for self driving cars?

 

"We concluded that the rats that actually learned to drive had a greater sense 
of control over their environment that was accompanied by increased DHEA — 
something like a rodent version of what we refer to as self-efficacy or agency 
in humans," Lambert said in a statement.

 

tl;dr – driving is fun

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/watch-these-lab-rats-drive-tiny-cars-get-froot-loops-ncna1072031

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT travelog

 

No cup holders. Evidently they are pro drinking, but not pro drinking in the 
car. 

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 5:54 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com 
<mailto:dwh...@atheral.com> > wrote:

German cars in general are very different but once you get used to their design 
quirks you miss them in American made/Japanese made cars.

 


  
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Ryan Hill wrote on 10/25/19 06:56:

Cars are getting more like Apple vs Mac, iOS vs Android

 

We’re making the jump from GMC to Audi this weekend, and the learning curve is 
looking steep.

 

 

            

 


              

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On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

 

Rented a Mercedes at Nice to go visit some caves a couple hours West.  I am 
totally handicapped now with my Leaf’s adaptive cruise control and lane 
keeping.  Just about rear-ended some cars after setting the cruise control.  
Also am apt to take my hands off the wheel.  

 

I am surprised such a new Mercedes does not have adaptive cruise control.  At 
least if it does I cannot figure out how to use it.  The sat-nav operation was 
totally unintuitive.  Had a weird touch pad thing in the center console.  Very 
difficult to program in a destination address.  

 

Never drove a Mercedes before.  Not likely to again.  

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