John,
Very interesting article. I haven't had the need of capturing
data and structuring it from the web so far, but it is great to learn
how to do it, nicelly structured and enlightening.
cheers,
Benigno.
On 22 jul, 14:25, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Benigno,
>
> The file is located here --http://76.185.48.154/images/web2pyart1.pdf
>
> Is a PDF 'the' solution. No. Its one maybe of a select few output
> formats we should use. As to delivery I have modified my thinking
> thanks to Alex. I suggested that vision here --
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/9a59133439...
>
> JohnMc
>
> On Jul 22, 5:38 am,Benigno<bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>
> > I do not know if I am understanding this correctly, but if the
> > proposal right now is to make a PDF and a zip file, or even just a zip
> > file with all the contents and maybe some text indicating what will be
> > found inside, I do think its not good to search on, nor to review and
> > even less if its something that may be "alive" in the sense that it
> > may get updated.
>
> > I still do think, that these articles should be html-ish. Be it wiki,
> > be it Sphinx, or even a Blog, with a clear date set on them, and
> > easily updatable (so as to be able to say when a document may be
> > outdated), easily searchable, and if possible with comments available.
> > If on top of that, we link downloadable files, well, so much the
> > better. But to learn to do something, I do not normally want to
> > download and install anything. Furthermore, if the whole code is to be
> > placed, I'd rather look at something GitHubish, or sourceforge or TRAC
> > or anything that would allow to link to it, and let people check the
> > code without actually needing to download the whole thing.
>
> > Anyway, I may be completelly off track, and you are proposing a much
> > simpler scenario.
>
> > JohnMC,
> > I didnt see your file, where is it to read it?.
>
> > Alex,
> > I've still to finish the little paypal project I am doing. I posted
> > here in the groups a couple of things a week ago or so. However, you
> > can check an NVP example at the examples repository at web2py website,
> > if you are looking for a full integration of payments etc. If you are
> > looking for something more google-ish, then I posted the little code
> > it takes to send the information to Paypal and have it working. Now I
> > am working on the PDT (payment data transfer) and IPN if time allows.
> > I'll let you know and will write an article as soon as a this is all
> > sorted out.
>
> > On Jul 22, 3:53 am, Alex Fanjul <alex.fan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It's a great Idea John!! I bet for that!
> > > One self-contained zip file, with all ready to start, documentation,
> > > testing, etc.
> > > We would have to throw out all the innecesary examples, code, things in
> > > such a .*h*w2p (:D) files.
>
> > > regards,
> > > Alex
>
> > > El 21/07/2009 5:11, JohnMc escribió:
>
> > > > Alex,
>
> > > > Certainly can, and will.
>
> > > > Fact it brings up yet another 'opportunity' for consideration.
> > > > Hopefully the How2Pys will include the sample code run ready. If that
> > > > is the case why not just put the documentation in /static? (or
> > > > someplace better?) That way it is totally contained in the .zip/.w2p
> > > > application.
>
> > > > Thoughts?
>
> > > > JohnMc
>
> > > > On Jul 20, 5:51 pm, Alex Fanjul<alex.fan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Wow!! impressive John...!
> > > >> Could you provide us with an example zip application ready to install
> > > >> in
> > > >> web2py?
>
> > > >> thanks in advance!!
> > > >> alex f
>
> > > >> El 20/07/2009 23:12, JohnMc escribió:
>
> > > >>> Ok, here is a draft of the article
> > > >>> --http://76.185.48.154/images/web2pyart1.pdf.
>
> > > >>> Have not applied a great deal off formatting. Looking for input as to
> > > >>> preferences in that regard.
>
> > > >>> JohnMc
>
> > > >>> On Jul 19, 10:13 pm, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Tim Michelsen
> > > >>>> <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de>wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>> A directed question if I may. What tools do you use to create the
> > > >>>>>> rest
> > > >>>>>> doc that goes into Sphinx.
>
> > > >>>>> I tried to show some here:
>
> > > >>>>>http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timmie/web2py/web2py-appdocu/annotate/he...<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Etimmie/web2py/web2py-appdocu/annotate/...>
>
> > > >>>> This was Timmies patch for web2py documenting - and his proposal to
> > > >>>> follow
> > > >>>> numpy standards (a good starting point, I thought, and continue to
> > > >>>> think,
> > > >>>> but too detailed for web2py sources). I got partway thru parsing
> > > >>>> this down
> > > >>>> to what I thought would be useful essentials for web2py; I need to
> > > >>>> send
> > > >>>> this to Massimo. In the end, too many people working at once, and no
> > > >>>> coherent direction, so this confused the issue / task (too many / no
> > > >>>> chiefs;
> > > >>>> incongruent effort), and I just dropped it until this aspect cooled
> > > >>>> (anyway,
> > > >>>> other things in my life took priority at the time).
>
> > > >>>> I haven't tried prettytable (write python code to generate ascii
> > > >>>> table; but
> > > >>>> could be useful to dump existing data).
>
> > > >>>> The shell scripts for making web2py specific sphinx docs I don't
> > > >>>> think apply
> > > >>>> to your question of what tools do I use to create rest (that is, the
> > > >>>> structured format of the content).
>
> > > >>>> But bottom line is still - you can easily just use a normal text
> > > >>>> editor....
>
> > > >>>> To get a feel for this - to convince yourself that as a edit /
> > > >>>> contributor
> > > >>>> this is "sane", just look at one of the "show source" links on any
> > > >>>> of the
> > > >>>> sphinx docs
> > > >>>> e.g.http://sphinx.pocoo.org/_sources/intro.txtofhttp://sphinx.pocoo.org/i...
> > > >>>> other sphinx docs listed here:http://sphinx.pocoo.org/examples.html
>
> > > >>>> - Yarko
>
> > > >>>>> you can use a simple editor that involves good syntax highlighting.
> > > >>>>> Like
> > > >>>>> HTML...
>
> > > >>>>> Or see the post on Lyx.
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
> > > >> alex.fan...@gmail.comwww.mhproject.org
>
> > > --
> > > Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
> > > alex.fan...@gmail.comwww.mhproject.org
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