Benigno,

I am right there with you. When I sent the draft out I was looking for
feedback. So slap it around and offer recommendations.

The primary reason I did it in Scribus was I could get the formatting
the way I wanted it. The fact it is PDF is probably more germane.

JohnMc.

On Jul 21, 9:00 am, Benigno <bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
> Sorry I got lost on this discussion,
>
>    I'd be happy to help document with example PayPal to start with. As
> for document formats, I have never used scribus. I am ok, with LaTex,
> and Beamer and Sphinx.
>
>    However, I think a little structure would be needed on the format
> this documents would be shared, and reviewed (which I think is vital),
> as the way they may be produced may vary depending on how and where
> they will be shown. So, I do think a bit of consensus should be
> reached before commiting to writing documentation.
>
> Cheers,
> Benigno.
>
> On Jul 21, 6:35 am, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > anyway, since I'm Scribus-ing other things, I'll go with you on that here...
> > perhaps we can share master pages, etc. so the slew of stuff (eventually)
> > has some "common"-ish look to it.
>
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > (and yes, on looking again, sure: reST doesn't address the 1st 2, nor does
> > > (if I'm getting you) LaTex (by itself, nor TeX in general), troff, or any 
> > > of
> > > the wiki markups, nor XML-ish stuff....
>
> > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Yarko Tymciurak 
> > > <yark...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >> :-)  Ahh, mercy at last! ;-)
>
> > >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:27 PM, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > >>> Yarko,
>
> > >>> I could go into a long histronic on document systems and disparate
> > >>> roles for each but I will pass. I'll just close with the comment that
> > >>> the four roles are distinct and not to be merged. Learned that at
> > >>> Xerox.
>
> > >>> JohnMc
>
> > >>> On Jul 20, 10:49 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>> > > Yarko,
>
> > >>> > > Understand your viewpoint as well. Documentation is a 4 part process
> > >>> -
> > >>> > > create, edit, format, distribute. reST is excellent on the last 2
> > >>> > > points and bordering on sad on the first two.
>
> > >>> > BTW - didn't mean to sound harsh, but this mis-info, topic is wearing
> > >>> on
> > >>> > me...
>
> > >>> > From a strictly structural analysis of your argument, you seem to want
> > >>> to
> > >>> > INTEGRATE in stead of separate the 4 processes you describe (want them
> > >>> > coupled).   For Scriptus, I've seen create/edit tool lists that are
> > >>> > bafflingly rich and long.  Editing text is... editing text;  With
> > >>> Scribus
> > >>> > you can insert a layout box, and put in it the output of LaTex
> > >>> (processed),
> > >>> > or reST.  so the editing is still separate.
>
> > >>> > It seems to me the argument you are making is one of workflow, and
> > >>> prefering
> > >>> > not to deal w/ markup languages (of any kind) if at all necessary, and
> > >>> I
> > >>> > don't know that I disagree with you.... it's just that I don't find
> > >>> markup
> > >>> > languages all that troubling (heck , used nroff and troff for years -
> > >>> was
> > >>> > the best way to self generate a book / paper, well before "Word" ... 
> > >>> > or
> > >>> even
> > >>> > Microsoft!  existed).
>
> > >>> > But I'm just toying with you - I don't mean to dismiss you, merely 
> > >>> > show
> > >>> the
> > >>> > circularness of these arguments.  There's nothing wrong with Sphinx.
> > >>>  Theres
> > >>> > nothing wrong with LaTex;  there's nothing wrong with Scribus.  All
> > >>> require
> > >>> > some learning  (now, if you want to mush it all together, let's just
> > >>> use
> > >>> > open office and be done).
>
> > >>> > Kindly,
> > >>> > Yarko
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