The problem with PDF is that people hungry to test it  won't be able to 
easily C&P code and so...
So it would be great to attach the code with an example project, isn't it?

thanks
alex f

El 21/07/2009 17:11, JohnMc escribió:
> Benigno,
>
> I am right there with you. When I sent the draft out I was looking for
> feedback. So slap it around and offer recommendations.
>
> The primary reason I did it in Scribus was I could get the formatting
> the way I wanted it. The fact it is PDF is probably more germane.
>
> JohnMc.
>
> On Jul 21, 9:00 am, Benigno<bca...@albendas.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Sorry I got lost on this discussion,
>>
>>     I'd be happy to help document with example PayPal to start with. As
>> for document formats, I have never used scribus. I am ok, with LaTex,
>> and Beamer and Sphinx.
>>
>>     However, I think a little structure would be needed on the format
>> this documents would be shared, and reviewed (which I think is vital),
>> as the way they may be produced may vary depending on how and where
>> they will be shown. So, I do think a bit of consensus should be
>> reached before commiting to writing documentation.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benigno.
>>
>> On Jul 21, 6:35 am, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> anyway, since I'm Scribus-ing other things, I'll go with you on that here...
>>> perhaps we can share master pages, etc. so the slew of stuff (eventually)
>>> has some "common"-ish look to it.
>>>        
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>        
>>>> (and yes, on looking again, sure: reST doesn't address the 1st 2, nor does
>>>> (if I'm getting you) LaTex (by itself, nor TeX in general), troff, or any 
>>>> of
>>>> the wiki markups, nor XML-ish stuff....
>>>>          
>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> :-)  Ahh, mercy at last! ;-)
>>>>>            
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:27 PM, JohnMc<maruadventu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Yarko,
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> I could go into a long histronic on document systems and disparate
>>>>>> roles for each but I will pass. I'll just close with the comment that
>>>>>> the four roles are distinct and not to be merged. Learned that at
>>>>>> Xerox.
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> JohnMc
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:49 pm, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, JohnMc<maruadventu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> Yarko,
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>> Understand your viewpoint as well. Documentation is a 4 part process
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> create, edit, format, distribute. reST is excellent on the last 2
>>>>>>>> points and bordering on sad on the first two.
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>> BTW - didn't mean to sound harsh, but this mis-info, topic is wearing
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>  From a strictly structural analysis of your argument, you seem to want
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> INTEGRATE in stead of separate the 4 processes you describe (want them
>>>>>>> coupled).   For Scriptus, I've seen create/edit tool lists that are
>>>>>>> bafflingly rich and long.  Editing text is... editing text;  With
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> Scribus
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> you can insert a layout box, and put in it the output of LaTex
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> (processed),
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> or reST.  so the editing is still separate.
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>> It seems to me the argument you are making is one of workflow, and
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> prefering
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> not to deal w/ markup languages (of any kind) if at all necessary, and
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> don't know that I disagree with you.... it's just that I don't find
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> markup
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> languages all that troubling (heck , used nroff and troff for years -
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> the best way to self generate a book / paper, well before "Word" ... or
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> Microsoft!  existed).
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>> But I'm just toying with you - I don't mean to dismiss you, merely show
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> circularness of these arguments.  There's nothing wrong with Sphinx.
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>   Theres
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> nothing wrong with LaTex;  there's nothing wrong with Scribus.  All
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> require
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> some learning  (now, if you want to mush it all together, let's just
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> open office and be done).
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>> Kindly,
>>>>>>> Yarko
>>>>>>>                
> >
>
>    

-- 
Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
alex.fan...@gmail.com
www.mhproject.org

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