I'm very interested in PayPal example Benigno...
I'm willing to read it when it's ready.

regads,
alex f

El 21/07/2009 16:00, Benigno escribió:
> Sorry I got lost on this discussion,
>
>     I'd be happy to help document with example PayPal to start with. As
> for document formats, I have never used scribus. I am ok, with LaTex,
> and Beamer and Sphinx.
>
>     However, I think a little structure would be needed on the format
> this documents would be shared, and reviewed (which I think is vital),
> as the way they may be produced may vary depending on how and where
> they will be shown. So, I do think a bit of consensus should be
> reached before commiting to writing documentation.
>
> Cheers,
> Benigno.
>
> On Jul 21, 6:35 am, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> anyway, since I'm Scribus-ing other things, I'll go with you on that here...
>> perhaps we can share master pages, etc. so the slew of stuff (eventually)
>> has some "common"-ish look to it.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>      
>>> (and yes, on looking again, sure: reST doesn't address the 1st 2, nor does
>>> (if I'm getting you) LaTex (by itself, nor TeX in general), troff, or any of
>>> the wiki markups, nor XML-ish stuff....
>>>        
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>        
>>>> :-)  Ahh, mercy at last! ;-)
>>>>          
>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:27 PM, JohnMc<maruadventu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> Yarko,
>>>>>            
>>>>> I could go into a long histronic on document systems and disparate
>>>>> roles for each but I will pass. I'll just close with the comment that
>>>>> the four roles are distinct and not to be merged. Learned that at
>>>>> Xerox.
>>>>>            
>>>>> JohnMc
>>>>>            
>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:49 pm, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, JohnMc<maruadventu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>>> Yarko,
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>> Understand your viewpoint as well. Documentation is a 4 part process
>>>>>>>                
>>>>> -
>>>>>            
>>>>>>> create, edit, format, distribute. reST is excellent on the last 2
>>>>>>> points and bordering on sad on the first two.
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> BTW - didn't mean to sound harsh, but this mis-info, topic is wearing
>>>>>>              
>>>>> on
>>>>>            
>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>  From a strictly structural analysis of your argument, you seem to want
>>>>>>              
>>>>> to
>>>>>            
>>>>>> INTEGRATE in stead of separate the 4 processes you describe (want them
>>>>>> coupled).   For Scriptus, I've seen create/edit tool lists that are
>>>>>> bafflingly rich and long.  Editing text is... editing text;  With
>>>>>>              
>>>>> Scribus
>>>>>            
>>>>>> you can insert a layout box, and put in it the output of LaTex
>>>>>>              
>>>>> (processed),
>>>>>            
>>>>>> or reST.  so the editing is still separate.
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> It seems to me the argument you are making is one of workflow, and
>>>>>>              
>>>>> prefering
>>>>>            
>>>>>> not to deal w/ markup languages (of any kind) if at all necessary, and
>>>>>>              
>>>>> I
>>>>>            
>>>>>> don't know that I disagree with you.... it's just that I don't find
>>>>>>              
>>>>> markup
>>>>>            
>>>>>> languages all that troubling (heck , used nroff and troff for years -
>>>>>>              
>>>>> was
>>>>>            
>>>>>> the best way to self generate a book / paper, well before "Word" ... or
>>>>>>              
>>>>> even
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Microsoft!  existed).
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> But I'm just toying with you - I don't mean to dismiss you, merely show
>>>>>>              
>>>>> the
>>>>>            
>>>>>> circularness of these arguments.  There's nothing wrong with Sphinx.
>>>>>>              
>>>>>   Theres
>>>>>            
>>>>>> nothing wrong with LaTex;  there's nothing wrong with Scribus.  All
>>>>>>              
>>>>> require
>>>>>            
>>>>>> some learning  (now, if you want to mush it all together, let's just
>>>>>>              
>>>>> use
>>>>>            
>>>>>> open office and be done).
>>>>>>              
>>>>>> Kindly,
>>>>>> Yarko
>>>>>>              
> >
>
>    

-- 
Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
alex.fan...@gmail.com
www.mhproject.org

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