yes ... this kind of Observer pattern exists in a lot of places.... could be useful here, but i haven't thought about this a lot yet.... too many things on my mind at the moment...
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:55 PM, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yarko: Looks a lot like the Observer pattern to me, if you used Qt > it's the rough equivalent of signals and slots. > > On Oct 29, 11:26 pm, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This may be worth looking at; I think this is a part of the discussin in > a > > way:http://pubsub.sourceforge.net/concepts.html > > > > Anyway, Publish / Subscribe could be useful. > > > > Another thing I'm just realizing is that the client end, and flexibility > in > > achieving a look is going to be an ongoing challenge. > > > > W/ Massimo's Google Checkout work, I'm going to start a blog on > "migrating > > an existing site" to web2py. > > > > This is interesting because, in general, design will be handed to someone > by > > a designer - like taking an existing layout, and adapting it to be run by > > web2py. I haven't thought too much about this, but will be taking > > this site as the topic - largely because of it's interest in design: > > > > http://www.unitytemple-utrf.org/ > > > > Meanwhile - every time I hear what's good, what's not, I keep looking for > > "why do you think?" and "what do you propose that would be better?" > Having > > said that, there is room for gut - as often we can "tell" when something > is > > right / not right before we can talk about why. > > > > Cheers, > > Yarko > > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > While we're expressing opinions, here's mine: > > > > > Achipa's post is subjective; but I would listen to 10 years of > expertise > > > that formed any opinion. While I don't have 10 years, I can see what > > > lock-in can do (I'm trying to dig my company out of IBM lock-in). > Besides, > > > criticizing a concept is more valid than criticizing a particular > product > > > because it shows that the critique is based on reason rather than > emotion. > > > > > But those frameworks are here and its better to take advantage of them > than to ignore them. > > > > > This statement assumes a surplus of programming hours. > > > > > -tim > > > > > JorgeRpo wrote: > > > > > Well I havent used appcelerator either. > > > > > But I found your opinion very personal and subjective. I am not going > > > to argue your points at this time. > > > > > You dont seem to be criticzicing appcelerator buth the logic behind > > > its existence. > > > > > So you dont agree neither with MS Silverlight, Mozilla Prism, Google > > > GWT, and others. > > > > > But those frameworks are here and its better to take advantage of them > > > than to ignore them. > > > > > On Oct 29, 9:54 am, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > <disclaimer> > > > I have not used appcelerator in any real life projects and just went > > > through the docs/tutorials/screencasts. I did use half a dozen web > > > oriented languages, frameworks and templating systems in the past ten > > > years. > > > </disclaimer> > > > > > Hate to be the Yin of all topics, but I find appceletator to be a bit > > > heavy on the buzz side. What I think is the worst error in the concept > > > is the Web Expression Language part. It somehow feels super cool and > > > super wrong to me at the same time. It reintroduces program logic in > > > places people were fighting years to get it out of, and doing it in an > > > unreadable form (as it pretends to be html for syntax purposes, which > > > is worse than any JS toolkit). This means two more things IMO - *real* > > > designers won't be able to touch it, and it will have a strong lock-in > > > factor as a design/UI made in it cannot be ported to any other > > > framework (which is why all the JS toolkits actually make sense as you > > > can adapt them to any underlying backend). 5 years ago I'd be super > > > impressed with appcelerator, but now it seems to me as an approach > > > with a dark side potential. Conceptually, it feels a lot like > > > (Open)Laszlo, also a super cool and simultaneously super wrong > > > approach. > > > > > On Oct 29, 2:04 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you for your comments. > > > > > I like appcelerator. I am reserving time over the christmas break to > > > learn more about it. Something may happen. > > > > > Massimo > > > > > On Oct 29, 2:38 am, Dunsun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > It would be great to integrate Appcelerator with web2py. > > > It would give us a superiority over all other frameworks. > > > Web2py is clearly the best framework for python and Appcelerator is > > > easy and very efficient way to add RIA and SOA to web2py. > > > > > Any plans for the future ? > > > Thank you. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. 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