NNo matter what they say the bottom line for a company is to make money. Yes it would be nice for Apples product to be perfect and have no bugs, but we have the right to expect the same accessability from all the operating system developers.
On 9/17/14, Robin <[email protected]> wrote: > You can't expect "accessibility" from either Microsoft and/or Google > as it pertains to either Microsoft's Windows and Google's Android > based on that comment because they are not geared towards the "Blind > and/or LowVision Community" either. > > At 12:54 PM 9/17/2014, you wrote: >>As for companies that manufacture products specifically for the >>blind, I do expect those to work properly when first used, but an >>iPhone does not fall into that category, even though it does, >>thankfully, come with Voice-Over. >> >>--- >>Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>finished, you! really! are! finished! >>----- Original Message ----- From: "alia robinson" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:28 PM >>Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released >> >> >>how about they take voiceover out altogether? No, we are never going >>to decide whether a product is released or not; no company is going >>to wait for blind people to be happy before releasing their product. >>We are too small a group. It's just the way it is. even people >>developing for the blind do this. It's something we have to get used >>to and work with. I am sure it will be ironed out, but you can >>forget about it waiting to be released until it is. it's not >>happening. The sighted world does not accommodate us. we have to >>find ways of doing things that sighted people do. It has been that >>way since I started in school with a brailleer, and a teacher to >>print my assignments for my sighted teachers, and it will always be >>that way. it is so much better than it was before voiceover, and I >>am grateful for that. I can buy something out of the box and use it. >> >>Alia >>>On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple would >>>not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that they can >>>release something to the public and then, if they have time, fix the bugs >>>that make the device much less stable for people who have a disability. I >>>know, at one time, Apple was in the forefront of accessibility. I gave >>> them >>>high praise and they deserved it. But, as some of my Mac user friends >>> have >>>said, they seem to have lately been resting on their former reputation >>> and >>>less on getting it right the first time. Obviously, they knew about all >>> of >>>these iOS bugs before release. This is why they have beta testers who are >>>blind and have low vision. Yet, they decided that was more important to >>> get >>>it to people who see, than to wait until it was just as ready for people >>> who >>>are blind or have limited vision. Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I >>>thought you were a better company than that. Put your development where >>> your >>>mouth is and fix the many problem issues in iOS 8. Otherwise, don't claim >>> to >>>be such a friend of people who are disabled. >> >>-- >>The following information is important for all members of the >>viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >>this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting >>on the list itself. 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