Let's not forget that a blind person pays just as much for an iPhone as
a sighted person, and VoiceOver is a supported feature of IOS. I
understand that there will always be bugs, and I've been in plenty of
product release meetings where companies have to make a business
decision on whether to postpone a release, with all of the negativity
that entails, or release on time with some pretty significant bugs and
the customer dissatisfaction that will result. On the other hand, as a
customer who shells out just as much money for their iPhone as the next
guy, and who's using a feature Apple develops, supports and promotes
then I definitely have certain expectations, and I can certainly be
disappointed when Apple or any company doesn't live up to those
expectations, whether I'm blind or sighted.
On 09/17/2014 05:38 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Amen! There is a huge difference between a few bugs, such as saying "screen
locked" twice and having the system be so buggy that many people are not able to use
it effectively. I really respect Neal and Sieghaird for pointing out these things. And I
am really sick and tired of the folks who seem to think that it is okay for us to
automatically expect to wait for several months before the major bugs are ironed out.
Yes, we are a small market. But if somebody is going to cheer themselves on and say how
great they are for accessibility, the bar needs to be a little higher than it apparently
is for this realse.
Apple is not your garden-variety developer. They are one of the richest
corporations in the world. And they brag about how cool they are with their
products for people with disabilities. You can't have it both ways. If you are
a true leader, you lead by example, and that does not include leaving a bunch
of bugs that have been reported and not acted on, which affect the use of the
system in major ways.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> wrote:
Agree with the below.
Take care
17. sep. 2014 kl. 19:49 skrev Neal Ewers <[email protected]>:
If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple would
not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that they can
release something to the public and then, if they have time, fix the bugs
that make the device much less stable for people who have a disability. I
know, at one time, Apple was in the forefront of accessibility. I gave them
high praise and they deserved it. But, as some of my Mac user friends have
said, they seem to have lately been resting on their former reputation and
less on getting it right the first time. Obviously, they knew about all of
these iOS bugs before release. This is why they have beta testers who are
blind and have low vision. Yet, they decided that was more important to get
it to people who see, than to wait until it was just as ready for people who
are blind or have limited vision. Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I
thought you were a better company than that. Put your development where your
mouth is and fix the many problem issues in iOS 8. Otherwise, don't claim to
be such a friend of people who are disabled.
Neal
-----Original Message-----
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Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
I'm sure that we can. All we have to do is to wait until they can get it to
us. I will patiently wait.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: IOS 8 Released
Since IOS is released can we get info from beta testers?
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