Let's hope it will be more interesting than the 10th anniversary when the iPhone X came out, if I remember correctly that phone was a 1-year wonder and discontinued in 2018 with the release of the XS and XR. In any case, I doubt Apple will make the release of a phone with under-display Touch Id in addition to Face Id or one without ports or one which folds or maybe one you can roll up like a carpet conditional to the 20th or 25th anniversary, these advances come when they come.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: December 10, 2021 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: re iphone advice please I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary. That will be very interesting. On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: > Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is > going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the > iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and > given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which > over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 > is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no > ports, than the iPhones many of us have today. > > Best, > Wayne Merritt > > On 12/10/21, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: >> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live >> off the stock market. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please >> >> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the >> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the >> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think >> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many >> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all >> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty >> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability >> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the >> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches >> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 >> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR >> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of TaraPrakash >> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please >> >> >> >> There may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home >> button. >> >> >> >> >> As for this article, >> >> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to >> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to >> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest >> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz >> now is over Apple's >> upcoming goggles. https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sieghard, >> >> >> >> I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with >> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has >> been rumored to still have a home button. >> >> >> >> And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and >> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use >> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but >> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone >> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture >> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I >> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher >> and home. Different strokes for different folks. >> >> >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf >> of Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please >> >> >> >> I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a >> huge advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to >> learn the swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or >> bring up the app switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then >> certainly they would have to deal with a phone with no home button in >> a few years. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Mo >> Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please >> >> Hi Richard and Wayne, >> Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response. >> This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to >> have a home button as other models they have used have had this. >> Out of these three which has the home button please? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please >> >> One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the >> 11, so its hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model. So for >> the long run, the SE has a chance of being supported longer; >> otherwise, accessibility is really the same in all iPhone models. >> The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the >> home button? >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow >> is exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only >> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Wayne Merritt >> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please >> >> Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has >> a home button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible. >> However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't >> have home buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically, you slide >> a finger up from the bottom or down from the top. Based on the >> vibrations you feel and noises you hear, you can access the home >> screen, app switcher, notification or control centers. I've been >> using this newer style since the XR. Though there was an initial >> adjustment period, it did not take me long to get the hang of the new >> way. Now, I pick up my 2020 SE for work and find myself wanting to >> use the same gestures on it that I use on my personal iPhone 11. 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