I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th
anniversary.  That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off
>> the
>> stock market.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone
>> in
>> whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch
>> does
>> not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be
>> different
>> with these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run
>> around with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles
>> with
>> such titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I
>> think their ability to correctly predict what will happen is less
>> successful. Despite the computing power of today's smartphones and even
>> smart watches desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in
>> the
>> last 2 years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some
>> AR
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to
>> potentially
>> sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But
>> the
>> iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left
>> before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>      
>>
>>      Sieghard,
>>
>>      
>>
>>      I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home
>> buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been
>> rumored
>> to still have a home button.
>>
>>      
>>
>>      And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the
>> app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home
>> button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as
>> easy
>> or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing
>> that initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as
>> pressing a button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a
>> dedicated one for the app switcher and home. Different strokes for
>> different
>> folks.
>>
>>      
>>
>>      Alan Lemly
>>
>>      
>>
>>      Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>      From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]>
>>      Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>      To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>      Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>      
>>
>>      I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge
>> advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the
>> swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the
>> app
>> switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would
>> have to deal with a phone with no home button in a few years.
>>      
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Mo
>>      Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>>      To: [email protected]
>>      Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>      
>>      Hi Richard and Wayne,
>>      Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>>      This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a
>> home button as other models they have used have had this.
>>      Out of these three which has the home button please?
>>      
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>>      Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
>>      To: [email protected]
>>      Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>      
>>      One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 11,
>> so
>> its hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long
>> run,
>> the SE has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility
>> is
>> really the same in all iPhone models.
>>      The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the
>> home
>> button?
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      Richard
>>      "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only
>> different
>> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>>      
>>      My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>      
>>      
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Wayne Merritt
>>      Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM
>>      To: [email protected]
>>      Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>      
>>      Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has a
>> home
>> button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible.
>>      However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't have
>> home
>> buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically, you slide a finger up
>> from
>> the bottom or down from the top. Based on the vibrations you feel and
>> noises
>> you hear, you can access the home screen, app switcher, notification or
>> control centers. I've been using this newer style since the XR. Though
>> there
>> was an initial adjustment period, it did not take me long to get the hang
>> of
>> the new way. Now, I pick up my 2020 SE for work and find myself wanting
>> to
>> use the same gestures on it that I use on my personal iPhone 11. One
>> other
>> thing; though the SE 2020 can do a lot, there may be some features of iOS
>> that either don't work as well or at all on the SE which do work or are
>> smoother on the phones without a home button.
>>      
>>      Respectfully,
>>      Wayne Merritt
>>      
>>      On 12/9/21, Mo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>      > Hi all,
>>      >
>>      > I have recently been asked for advice re accessibility of the iphone
>>      > xs-xr and se 2020.
>>      >
>>      > How do the features and accessibility work?
>>      >
>>      > Useability etc.
>>      >
>>      > Would be most grateful for any guidance from you guys.
>>      >
>>      > Thank you.
>>      >
>>      > Mo.
>>      >
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