Well, then that would lend credence to it not being a Warden thing. Unless Warden is implemented significantly differently across Blizzard's various games.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Abdulla Bubshait <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Overwatch doesn't have this problem. It is only sc2 and Heroes > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016, 12:25 Jayme Howard <g.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Actually, I also haven't seen further ones while I'm playing Overwatch. >> Just at startup. I wonder if maybe I've got something misconfigured? >> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Abdulla Bubshait <darkst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, I guess the "issue" is only from the blizzard games. It could >>> very well be that this is used as some anti-tamper tool in these blizzard >>> games, but I find it odd that it only does this in Win10 and that returning >>> 0 doesn't cause a problem. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:06 PM Jayme Howard <g.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've only seen it call them at startup. After playing for an hour or >>>> so, I didn't see more of them in my dmesg output. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Abdulla Bubshait <darkst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For what its worth it seems Rise of the Tomb Raider also calls it, so >>>>> it might be Denuvo. >>>>> >>>>> The interesting thing is Rise of the Tomb Raider only calls it once. >>>>> So there is no performance issue. Heroes and Starcraft continuously make >>>>> these calls which causes the performance issue. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone confirm if Doom only calls up the MSRS in one spot or does >>>>> it constantly keep calling the MSRS throughout the game? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:55 AM thibaut noah <thibaut.n...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They have the warden which is constantly checking your system >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-06-14 14:36 GMT+02:00 Jayme Howard <g.pr...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think Blizzard uses Denuvo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:29 AM, thibaut noah < >>>>>>> thibaut.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That might also have to do with denuvo protection >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2016-06-14 9:49 GMT+02:00 Abdulla Bubshait <darkst...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, this is a win10 issue. >>>>>>>>> Changing the Virtual CPU model does not make a difference. Each >>>>>>>>> model has its own LBR register address, but one will be called. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The only thing I have not tried is using an AMD processor. AMD >>>>>>>>> CPUs support lbrv which is virtualization of the LBR registers, so it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> handled in hardware rather than software. >>>>>>>>> If anyone has an AMD CPU and a win10 VM willing to confirm if >>>>>>>>> their setup does indeed work in these games, that would be great. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:39 AM Ivan Volosyuk < >>>>>>>>> ivan.volos...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2 things: >>>>>>>>>> - this msrs are not called from StarCraft on Win8.1. >>>>>>>>>> - i wonder if forcing virtual CPU model to something older will >>>>>>>>>> disable them in Win10. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This msrs issue is what holds me off upgrade to W10. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:39 PM Jayme Howard <g.pr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For what it's worth, I believe I was getting them on Overwatch >>>>>>>>>>> as well. It's not happening with EVERY game I have though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Abdulla Bubshait < >>>>>>>>>>> darkst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Jayme Howard < >>>>>>>>>>>> g.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > That's the output for Doom. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044855] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044861] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 ignored rdmsr: 0x1c9 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044862] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 ignored rdmsr: 0x680 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044863] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 ignored rdmsr: 0x6c0 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044890] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044895] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x1c9 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044896] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x680 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044897] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x6c0 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044905] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044907] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x1c9 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044908] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x680 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.044909] kvm [9487]: vcpu1 ignored rdmsr: 0x6c0 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.046195] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.046198] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 ignored rdmsr: 0x1c9 >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.046204] kvm [9487]: vcpu2 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.155114] kvm [9487]: vcpu0 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > [1639445.155123] kvm [9487]: vcpu0 kvm_set_msr_common: >>>>>>>>>>>> MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR >>>>>>>>>>>> > 0x1, nop >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Odd, this is another game that is contantly reading the LBR. I >>>>>>>>>>>> initially thought this was part of the StarCraft 2 and Heroes of >>>>>>>>>>>> the Storm >>>>>>>>>>>> code. But now I think this might be part of Windows 10. Something >>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>>> called by these games is causing a ton of LBR reads. Maybe DX 12? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think if we can find what is causing these reads in the games >>>>>>>>>>>> we might be able to solve it. Because if this is the case we might >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> getting more and more games with performance problems because of >>>>>>>>>>>> these LBR >>>>>>>>>>>> checks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> vfio-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> vfio-users@redhat.com >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/vfio-users >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> vfio-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> vfio-users@redhat.com >>>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/vfio-users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>
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