-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 André,
On 1/23/14, 2:08 PM, André Warnier wrote: > Ray Holme wrote: >> Doing anything as root conceals the errors. Tomcat is no >> exception and changing it to a real user makes your testing >> complete. >> > > Guys, I think that the rule (or should I say suggestion ?) on this > list to *not* top-post is not working. Either people don't read the > rules, or they do not understand the rule, or they just ignore it. > > Anyway, it seems that we're spending more time lately asking people > to not top-post, than actually providing answers to their > questions. > > So I have a few suggestions of my own : - have the list software > add a message in *bold* to all messages, indicating that top posts > will be *ignored* ? - just ignore top-posts ? - drop the rule ? - -1 to all three. Tomcat (and the ASF as a whole) is a community, and our job as ... vocal? members of the community is to help meet the needs of that community. If top-posting irritates us, we just have to ask that people help us help themselves. But simply summarily ignoring top-posted replies is childish. If the top-posting becomes intolerable (it happens sometimes, especially when there is a complex thread going on and someone - usually the OP - continues to top-post), then feel free to stop replying. But don't crucify people for top-posting alone. Some people can't figure out how to reply properly. Just gently remind posters of the rules and get back to business. There is no need to reply to a post by simply saying "Don't top-post" and leaving it at that. Save your own time and the time of everyone else on the list (and the archives, where useless messages can't be removed) and just skip that step. If you want to reply meaningfully, feel free to add the "don't top-post" somewhere in your reply. - -chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4ZIdAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRY+NIP/Aptl3OrcVu85Gp05ekxdds5 x1XmCBkdNnlz9ihom4hSvlm633Xg1Im1jQi+tiyY1ZdAgpzYV3K8zM5CykhuiuxN aWjvlCcKKKkH+6u5WfZQF3LwUFkRFz9WaHC+9LqMuDbHfdVJEuszkzRve6/njtcs FZ54RQQ2Af3x+8UWe9fdb9OoQFCebG08UqB2IgaYIQ7dp3nqlLke/+t+l3Ns0dU1 SLBQbZP3pcMiY9tU4cPTO+F025oITjdAsj8x6JapkA2IapxEsSQCG/35rERFDPUP mZF9jc1r8jz7PtgfcdSD6FfHi5AZfya4OJxzZKRQWEgm1Lp2UOeKaBwszNSojVqq kfxeDjVeFdRxsXEY1a8rlNNNXbfDVjeHV2IOm1LgzelpWlYf9daRKPo0dVGxOnRK 4Blkj1LcNbInWBBk8DfPfpfz3svsn6wNcv9qhgCCNJC5e3jyCjI5aahEij8lKqha hHe9u9xqaPp+47AmeCKa5QTaRuJE8ExTnpaUNNTRkmYnTmy/mLqouEsMHVbRlqgX ujvhg4jqP/ANlbe+ZXpHBeBjDeAWhqhP6f9wWRibZ8BXQdOPFpyNfIrHFpaMRsto jWcHpF2qHcOPuY3xSWvTPOwUCaVpWQt3IPWqIf+rVbdtCkzhd+jL+smo9UX82MaB PS8sanZTLZ0e8UrxTxzm =nlVi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org