Reply at the bottom . . . and one in-line for fun.
> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:22 PM, Ray Holme <rayho...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Unfortunately that will mean that all folks who use yahoo need to copy and > > paste > all messages. > > I have tried "reply" and "reply to conversation" but with > the new yahoo paradigm (a couple months ago, they changed things) - it no > longer > allows me to post inside of an email as it did in the past. > This is an in-line reply with Yahoo's web mail interface. > I understand your frustration and will try to always fully copy a message to > an > editor in order to allow me to edit and NOT top post. > > Apologies and my 1/2 cent. > > rah > > > > > > On Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:44 PM, Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > On 1/23/2014 11:21 AM, Leo Donahue wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:08 PM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> > wrote: >>> >>> it seems that we're spending more time lately asking people to not >>> top-post, than actually providing answers to their questions. >>> >>> So I have a few suggestions of my own : >>> - have the list software add a message in *bold* to all messages, > indicating >>> that top posts will be *ignored* ? >>> - just ignore top-posts ? >>> - drop the rule ? >>> >> >> Does this topic go back to the usenet days of the early 80s? Top >> posting vs bottom posting? >> >> It is so customary to simply reply to people in the MS Outlook world >> that all of those people get used to top posting, because they know >> nothing different, until they come here. >> >> I'm getting used to bottom posting, but it drives my co-workers crazy >> and is not proper form where I work. I think this we might be chasing >> the wind here. >> >> Leo > > There are probably lots of reasons for top-posting, and I don't think we > can lay the blame on the MS Outlook world. The people I work with use a > mixture of Thunderbird, web-based interfaces, and Outlook. > > Every one of them top-posts :-(. > > I think top-posting says a lot about the thought process of the poster. > To me it says, "my issue, problem, answer, concern is of paramount > importance. You should remember everything about my issue. After all, I > remember everything about my issue." > > The attitude is probably not malicious, but more along the lines of a > lack of perspective. > > Two things to consider when posting to a public mailing list: > > 1. There are lots of topics - people don't keep up with all of them > 2. Many people have more pressing concerns - your issue isn't one of > them > > In a work environment, top-posting may be rational since hopefully > you're getting mail on issues of primary importance. > > In an open mailing list, bottom-posting or in-line posting makes sense > because contributors are doing this on a voluntary basis (beats > rewriting a build process in Maven for example :-p). Also, your concern > is most likely not their concern. In short, the contributors aren't > spending as many cycles on the issue as the original poster is. > > This goes along with providing a complete description of your > environment and how you arrived at the problem. Within a work > environment, there's shared knowledge. In a public mailing list, no one > knows but the original poster. > > Oh, and brevity is probably a good model (shoot me now). > > . . . . just my two cents > /mde/ Hmm, I normally don't use the web interface. I access my Yahoo account via IMAP and Thunderbird. Just for kicks, I thought I would access it via the web interface and reply to your message. On a Windows box, Ctrl-End gets me to the end of the message. I then trim off the mailing list footer, and finally type in my reply. Voila - no top-posting. I don't know about the tablet version or phone version of Yahoo! mail. /mde/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
