On 1/23/2014 3:51 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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André,
On 1/23/14, 6:09 PM, André Warnier wrote:
Christopher,
Christopher Schultz wrote:
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André,
On 1/23/14, 2:08 PM, André Warnier wrote:
Ray Holme wrote:
Doing anything as root conceals the errors. Tomcat is no
exception and changing it to a real user makes your testing
complete.
Guys, I think that the rule (or should I say suggestion ?) on
this list to *not* top-post is not working. Either people
don't read the rules, or they do not understand the rule, or
they just ignore it.
Anyway, it seems that we're spending more time lately asking
people to not top-post, than actually providing answers to
their questions.
So I have a few suggestions of my own : - have the list
software add a message in *bold* to all messages, indicating
that top posts will be *ignored* ? - just ignore top-posts ? -
drop the rule ?
- -1 to all three. Tomcat (and the ASF as a whole) is a
community, and our job as ... vocal? members of the community is
to help meet the needs of that community. If top-posting
irritates us, we just have to ask that people help us help
themselves.
But simply summarily ignoring top-posted replies is childish. If
the top-posting becomes intolerable (it happens sometimes,
especially when there is a complex thread going on and someone -
usually the OP - continues to top-post), then feel free to stop
replying. But don't crucify people for top-posting alone.
Some people can't figure out how to reply properly. Just gently
remind posters of the rules and get back to business. There is
no need to reply to a post by simply saying "Don't top-post" and
leaving it at that. Save your own time and the time of everyone
else on the list (and the archives, where useless messages can't
be removed) and just skip that step. If you want to reply
meaningfully, feel free to add the "don't top-post" somewhere in
your reply.
In a general sense, I do agree with all of that. "Be tolerant of
what you receive, and strict in what you produce" and that kind of
thing.
It's just that top-posting /is/ really annoying on this kind of
list. And also that it takes quite a lot of energy to politely ask
someone to not top-post, and give them the reason why, and point
them to the list rules.
Might there be some kind of "macro" in the Tomcat list server,
which would allow us to paste such a statement into a response,
with just a couple of keystrokes ?
As a matter of fact, a few such macros would come in handy. On a
historical and statistical base : [TOP] Please don't top-post,
because.. [VER] Please provide Tomcat version, Java version,
platform OS & version [OLD] That version of Tomcat is %d years
old. You should upgrade to the latest version, which has many more
features and fixes for the latest security issues. [CONF] Can you
post the relevant bits of your configuration here (server.xml) ?
Please paste it in-line, don't send it as attachment, the list
strips them. And remove comments and any sensitive information
(passwords etc.) [RTFM] Please check the on-line documentation at
http://tomcat.apache.org [SMART]
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [PAW] Patches
are always welcome [HTTPD] This is the Apache Tomcat list, your
question relates to Apache httpd, see http://httpd.apache.org
[SPEC] Please check the Java Servlet Specification at .. [LAZY]
http://lmgtfy.com/ [COMP101] Is this a school exercise ? [BUG]
It's not a bug, it's a feature [FEAT] Could you create a Bugzilla
entry ? [ASAP] Tomcat is open source and free. This list is manned
by volunteers. If you would prefer instant gratification, please
consult the list of commercial Tomcat consultants at.. [CAPS]
(alias of [ASAP]) [$] (alias of [ASAP]) [CON] It's Context, with a
capital C [CON2] Don't do that (put your <Context> in server.xml).
[2C] Just my 2 cent
[ROOT] It's ROOT.war -- capitalization matters, even when using a
case-insensitive filesystem.
- -chris
Looks like the Quicktext addon for Thunderbird is perfect for this. I'll
play around with adding keyboard shortcuts later.
- and now we're out in a swamp, in the middle of the forest, beyond the
hills off-topic.
/mde/
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