On Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:41 PM, Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
 
Reply at the bottom . . . and one in-line for fun.


> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:22 PM, Ray Holme <rayho...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately that will mean that all folks who use yahoo need to copy and 
> > paste 
> all messages.
> 
> I have tried "reply" and "reply to conversation" but with 
> the new yahoo paradigm (a couple months ago, they changed things) - it no 
> longer 
> allows me to post inside of an email as it did in the past.
> 

This is an in-line reply with Yahoo's web mail interface.

> I understand your frustration and will try to always fully copy a message to 
> an 
> editor in order to allow me to edit and NOT top post.
> 
> Apologies and my 1/2 cent.
> 
> rah
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:44 PM, Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 1/23/2014 11:21 AM, Leo Donahue wrote:
>>  On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:08 PM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  it seems that we're spending more time lately asking people to not
>>>  top-post, than actually providing answers to their questions.
>>> 
>>>  So I have a few suggestions of my own :
>>>  - have the list software add a message in *bold* to all messages, 
> indicating
>>>  that top posts will be *ignored* ?
>>>  - just ignore top-posts ?
>>>  - drop the rule ?
>>> 
>> 
>>  Does this topic go back to the usenet days of the early 80s?  Top
>>  posting vs bottom posting?
>> 
>>  It is so customary to simply reply to people in the MS Outlook world
>>  that all of those people get used to top posting, because they know
>>  nothing different, until they come here.
>> 
>>  I'm getting used to bottom posting, but it drives my co-workers crazy
>>  and is not proper form where I work.  I think this we might be chasing
>>  the wind here.
>> 
>>  Leo
> 
> There are probably lots of reasons for top-posting, and I don't think we 
> can lay the blame on the MS Outlook world. The people I work with use a 
> mixture of Thunderbird, web-based interfaces, and Outlook.
> 
> Every one of them top-posts :-(.
> 
> I think top-posting says a lot about the thought process of the poster. 
> To me it says, "my issue, problem, answer, concern is of paramount 
> importance. You should remember everything about my issue. After all, I 
> remember everything about my issue."
> 
> The attitude is probably not malicious, but more along the lines of a 
> lack of perspective.
> 
> Two things to consider when posting to a public mailing list:
> 
> 1. There are lots of topics - people don't keep up with all of them
> 2. Many people have more pressing concerns - your issue isn't one of
>     them
> 
> In a work environment, top-posting may be rational since hopefully 
> you're getting mail on issues of primary importance.
> 
> In an open mailing list, bottom-posting or in-line posting makes sense 
> because contributors are doing this on a voluntary basis (beats 
> rewriting a build process in Maven for example :-p). Also, your concern 
> is most likely not their concern. In short, the contributors aren't 
> spending as many cycles on the issue as the original poster is.
> 
> This goes along with providing a complete description of your 
> environment and how you arrived at the problem. Within a work 
> environment, there's shared knowledge. In a public mailing list, no one 
> knows but the original poster.
> 
> Oh, and brevity is probably a good model (shoot me now).
> 
> . . . . just my two cents
> /mde/


Hmm,

I normally don't use the web interface. I access my Yahoo account via IMAP and 
Thunderbird.

Just for kicks, I thought I would access it via the web interface and reply to 
your message.

On a Windows box, Ctrl-End gets me to the end of the message. I then trim off 
the mailing list footer, and finally type in my reply.

Voila - no top-posting.

I don't know about the tablet version or phone version of Yahoo! mail.


/mde/

My bad - I did NOT see the button to include message history. Sorry to all. And 
I am not using a table, just the web interface with Linux.  I dug a while and 
there it was.

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