Axb wrote
> On 08/05/2014 06:06 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>> On 8/5/2014 11:50 AM, RobertGrimes wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is fair to ask, but would you (or anyone) care to
>>> see
>>> if the message I am posting should be rated higher than 1.9? I
>>> appologize if
>>> this is not appropriate.
>>>
>>> The message is at http://pastebin.com/UZeDtLWZ
>>>
>>> The debug log from spamd is at http://pastebin.com/6FERLq5C
>>
>> That message doesn't contain much that the general SA rules will match.
>> This type of message is a good candidate for Bayes once you get the
>> training sorted out.  If the headers were there, then there might be
>> something.  The debug log is not particularly useful.  The main thing we
>> need to see in this case is the headers that were added to the message.
>>
>> The message is missing most of the headers.  You need to figure out how
>> to get the message with all of the headers intact for the best test. One
>> way to do it is to get the message directly from the server.  If the
>> server is using the Maildir format, then each message is its own file
>> and you just have to copy the right one. You can also get it from
>> Outlook.  If you view the message and then poke around in the menus,
>> there should be an option to "View Headers".  This will actually show
>> you the full text of the message along with the headers.  This is what
>> you need to be testing with and showing us.  (Caveat: The last version
>> of Outlook I dealt with was 2000, so it may be a bit different now.
>> Hopefully the option is still there somewhere.)
>>
> 
> AND msg only shows part of the body...
> 
> get the full pristine msg from the hmailserver's Maildir and test 
> against that.

Advice taken. I have gone back to the basic eml message that comes in. It
has had SA headers added but there is not much I can do about that. I have
isolated them and have been using sa-learn. I rechecked config files to see
where Bayes db is and made sure I am using the same as the spamd is. I have
run through about 50 messages via sa-learn. Strange to say, but I need a
bunch of spam to come my way to learn and check. I have installed another
DNS that is cache only and the cache seems to be holding a number of items. 

All seems to be going in the correct direction thanks to the great advice I
got here. I just wanted to document my approach in case someone else needs
the help.



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