Right. Hence the moderating or temporary ban.
From: Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: Hbase-User <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re:
[DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client)
Huh? This is not about being caremad over some technical issue, this is about
preserving a productive space for communication free from toxic people casting
abuse while being "funny" and "smart". Please go back on the original thread
and re-read the interaction with Sean. Are you going to defend that as within
the bounds of acceptable behavior? Is this the first time that has happened?
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:58 PM, lars hofhansl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Moderating is better than outright banning, I think.While Micheal is
> sometimes infuriating, he's also funny and smart.
> Can we have a group of moderators? I'd volunteer, but not if I'm the only one.
>
> -- Lars
> From: Stack <[email protected]>
> To: Hbase-User <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re:
> [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client)
>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I volunteer to help moderate.
>> St.Ack
> Sorry. Changed my mind. I'm not going to do more work because of Michael.
> Let the filters do the work for us. Ban him for 3 months.
>
>
> St.Ack
>
>
>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> (I took the liberty of moving us off of Ted's feature discussion thread)
>>>
>>> A three month ban sounds better than a permanent ban. But it still seems
>>> likely to just result in the ban-ee walking away from teh community or
>>> escalating.
>>>
>>> Would we consider enforcing moderation on posts for the three month period
>>> instead of an outright ban?
>>>
>>> It's more work for whomever has moderator rights on the mailing list, but
>>> it provides a better feedback cycle for improved behavior. Presuming that
>>> I
>>> don't already have such access as a PMC member, I'd be willing to
>>> volunteer
>>> to help take on part of the burden.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was suggested privately that we try a temporary ban first, to be
>>> clear
>>>> that current behavior and communication is unacceptable and won't be
>>>> tolerated further, yet allow for the possibility of a return to the
>>>> community should the message be received. So let me amend my proposal -
>>> a
>>>> three month temporary ban.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the reason I am asking for public feedback before calling for a
>>> vote
>>>> is this would be the first time in the history of the project we would
>>> take
>>>> this very unfortunate step. It pains me personally but enough is
>>> enough, in
>>>> my opinion. However, if you are not comfortable with that then please
>>> speak
>>>> up and I won't ask the PMC to vote on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've had enough and would like to ask the user and dev communities if
>>>> they
>>>>> would mind if we vote on a permanent ban of Michael Segal - any and
>>> all
>>>>> email accounts he may choose to set up - from all HBase mailing lists.
>>>> The
>>>>> basic lack of courtesy and constant naysaying is corrosive. Nobody
>>> trying
>>>>> to volunteer their time here deserves his continuing abuse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Michael Segel <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You’re a developer, or just some higher level primate that pounds
>>> code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t want to embarrass you, but what do they teach in engineering
>>>>>> schools these days?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> - Andy
>>>>
>>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
>>>> (via Tom White)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sean
>
