Beyond the personal insults, he is clearly arguing for the sake of arguing. Not productive. I'm also with Stack -- moderation is work. Ban. It's not like there aren't other outlets for this kind of behavior, just don't let them do it here.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> wrote: > Huh? This is not about being caremad over some technical issue, this is > about preserving a productive space for communication free from toxic > people casting abuse while being "funny" and "smart". Please go back on the > original thread and re-read the interaction with Sean. Are you going to > defend that as within the bounds of acceptable behavior? Is this the first > time that has happened? > > > > On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:58 PM, lars hofhansl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Moderating is better than outright banning, I think.While Micheal is > sometimes infuriating, he's also funny and smart. > > Can we have a group of moderators? I'd volunteer, but not if I'm the > only one. > > > > -- Lars > > From: Stack <[email protected]> > > To: Hbase-User <[email protected]> > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was > (Re: [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client) > > > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I volunteer to help moderate. > >> St.Ack > > Sorry. Changed my mind. I'm not going to do more work because of Michael. > > Let the filters do the work for us. Ban him for 3 months. > > > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > >> > >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> (I took the liberty of moving us off of Ted's feature discussion > thread) > >>> > >>> A three month ban sounds better than a permanent ban. But it still > seems > >>> likely to just result in the ban-ee walking away from teh community or > >>> escalating. > >>> > >>> Would we consider enforcing moderation on posts for the three month > period > >>> instead of an outright ban? > >>> > >>> It's more work for whomever has moderator rights on the mailing list, > but > >>> it provides a better feedback cycle for improved behavior. Presuming > that > >>> I > >>> don't already have such access as a PMC member, I'd be willing to > >>> volunteer > >>> to help take on part of the burden. > >>> > >>> -Sean > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> It was suggested privately that we try a temporary ban first, to be > >>> clear > >>>> that current behavior and communication is unacceptable and won't be > >>>> tolerated further, yet allow for the possibility of a return to the > >>>> community should the message be received. So let me amend my proposal > - > >>> a > >>>> three month temporary ban. > >>>> > >>>> Also, the reason I am asking for public feedback before calling for a > >>> vote > >>>> is this would be the first time in the history of the project we would > >>> take > >>>> this very unfortunate step. It pains me personally but enough is > >>> enough, in > >>>> my opinion. However, if you are not comfortable with that then please > >>> speak > >>>> up and I won't ask the PMC to vote on this. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I've had enough and would like to ask the user and dev communities if > >>>> they > >>>>> would mind if we vote on a permanent ban of Michael Segal - any and > >>> all > >>>>> email accounts he may choose to set up - from all HBase mailing > lists. > >>>> The > >>>>> basic lack of courtesy and constant naysaying is corrosive. Nobody > >>> trying > >>>>> to volunteer their time here deserves his continuing abuse. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Michael Segel < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Sean, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You’re a developer, or just some higher level primate that pounds > >>> code? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don’t want to embarrass you, but what do they teach in engineering > >>>>>> schools these days? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> > >>>> - Andy > >>>> > >>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet > Hein > >>>> (via Tom White) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sean > > >
